PC gets too hot.

[Bebop]

Is there a certain setting that makes PC overheat? I'd really like to play this weekend. Works fine for ten minutes, then GPU goes up 84C & Crash. Just wait for new patch or switch something? Anyone?

[Bebop]

It definitely could be my PC. Its a pre built (im no techie). Got the MSI thing installed and a few things picked to show. watching a vid. I did cap at 120 which I hadnt before.
TY for all suggestions! this is what i got

CAS: CyberPowerPC HYTE Y60 Dual Chamber Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Panoramic View Tempered Glass (Included)
CPU: Intel(R) Core™ Processor i7-13700KF 8P/16 + 8E 3.40GHz [Turbo 5.4GHz] 30MB Cache LGA1700 [w/o Integrated Graphic] (Included)
CS_FAN: 3X 120mm CyberPowerPC Dual Addressable Digital ARGB Fans (Included)
FAN: 240mm Liquid CPU Cooling (Included)
HDD: 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD (Included)
HDD2: 1TB HDD (Included)

MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/4800MHz Dual Channel Memory (Included)
MOTHERBOARD: Z690 DDR5 WIFI Motherboard (Included)

OS: Windows 11 Home (Included)
POWERSUPPLY: 1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (Included)

SUMMARY: Intel IET99171 +
VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 4090 24GB GDDR6X Video Card (Ada Lovelace) [AI-Powered Graphics] (Included)

[Coreleon]

Hmm is your card in quiet mode or something like that?
You may also take a look at the fan profile of the card, my 7900 xtx start also get hot after a driver update. AMD just messed with the Fan Profil with the update, found it not so funny,
Maybe worth a look.

[ErikRedbeard]

GPU's are fine going even over 100C. Most will never get there.
The thing is the regular temp you see is the average for the entire chip, but some parts can be hotter than the other.
Nvidia at least shows GPU Hotspot. Which could def be going 120C+ while the GPU is only at 85C. This will guarantee make you crash to black screen or shutdown. And the issue does not have to appear in other games.

I've had this issue myself with a bad factory paste. And most games ran fine, Just 1 out of 20 games managed to push the hotspot past the 120C mark where it crashes. Re-pasting solved everything, but you might want to poke at warranty instead if hotspot is way too high.

So simple questions:
How does it crash? To desktop or black or does it turn off completely?
Use a tool like HWiNFO64 that can show GPU hotspot, and look at that number instead.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Kappa:

I am using msi afterburning forcing max 70C.

This is exactly my answer too. My alienware with 3090 winds up crazy loud if I dont use msi afterburner and manually set my own fan settings. Once I set them it is 3x as quiet and never gets over 74c.

[Mirona]

yes and you also lost so much performance that you could have just bought a 3070 or 3080.
buys a 3090 , then limits its temp because of not enough cooling into effectively a lower tier card. could have spend a lot less money for the same result. setting your fancurve to be quiet with a 3090 laptop while also setting avery low max temp means you propably lost 30% performance or something along those lines. maybe even more depending on your cooling performance left. i dont even wanna know how low your gpu clock runs

[Bebop]

It crashed again.

LowLevelFatalError [File:C:\Unreal_TC\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\ShaderCodeArchive.cpp] [Line: 354] ShaderCodeArchive::DecompressShader(): Could not decompress shader (GetShaderCompressionFormat=Oodle)

Remnant2_Win64_Shipping

I've never got the above message before, I have win64 though. What do I set the fans to in MSI? Is there a spec I should look for before setting?

((FOR the record)). I just think it's getting too hot and crashes. It may not be that, so my bad on the title. I really have no idea about tech specs and such.

What do you suggest?

[Mirona]

nothing, the game crashes alot for many people. has nothing to do with your setup. all you can do is wait for a patch or deal with it. in this forum at the top posts you have the 3 patchnotes. and at the very top of every of those patchnotes is shown that the devs are working on fixing the crashes. it may be betetr already for some but its not yet resolved

i know people dont want to hear this and some may refuse to accept it in this forum but the game crashing is not a user but a game problem. some people have problems and some not. sure it be adviced to make sure your pc is up to date and stuff but in the end people try alot ot fix this game by themself when in the end this is mostly useless. a perfectly setup computer wont run faulty software better, its still faulty software. and since no one here can alter the games code we only can wait for mor patches

---------------------------------------------------------

Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 08.04.23
Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 383,678


--Performance and Crashes--

• Initial optimizations to improve overall performance.

• Updates to improve hitching and potential crashes.

• Fixed multiple reported crash bugs.
----------------------------------------------------------
Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 08.10.23
Patch Version: 384,210

--Performance and Crashes--

• Ongoing optimizations to improve overall performance.

• Fixed multiple reported crash bugs.

• Potential fix for "GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread" crash.

------------------------------------------------------------
Remnant II Patch Notes: 8.17.23
Remnant II Patch Notes: 384,830
--Performance and Crashes—
• Updates to reduce potential crashes.
• Addressed an issue where game would hang on Remnant II logo screen for some players when first starting the game.
• Fixed various issues causing memory leaks.

[Viper]

Sounds like a cooling issue.

[Mirona]

and btw a hot pc clocks down to not overheat. resulting in possible very low performance. but low performance wont make games crash. you will just get lower and lower framerates.

in extrem cases where you lets say remove a gpu cooler fully while under load it can result in such low clocks from the gpu that this may cause crashes or at worse shuts down the pc

but this is not what you encounter. when a game crashes is has almost never anything to do with too high temps

your gpu is designed to run very hot. and the safeties in place make sure your gpu wont get too hot. 80-85 is for most nvidia cards perfectly fine and once they get hotter they compensate by downclocking anyways

so even if you run the game with a 30 fps cap and play on the lowest settings. you pc may be cool but the game will still for some people crash

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Bebop:

It crashed again.

LowLevelFatalError [File:C:\Unreal_TC\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\ShaderCodeArchive.cpp] [Line: 354] ShaderCodeArchive::DecompressShader(): Could not decompress shader (GetShaderCompressionFormat=Oodle)

Remnant2_Win64_Shipping

I've never got the above message before, I have win64 though. What do I set the fans to in MSI? Is there a spec I should look for before setting?

((FOR the record)). I just think it's getting too hot and crashes. It may not be that, so my bad on the title. I really have no idea about tech specs and such.

What do you suggest?

Make sure you do all the usual like verify integrity of game and update drivers, not sure by the sound of that error that your problem is related to heat. Decompressing is a process of reducing the size of data by removing redundant or unnecessary information. Oodle is a compression algorithm that is used by Unreal Engine to compress and decompress shader code

When it comes to cooling, it depends on the fans and efficiency of your case. A good starting point that works with many rigs is to set your fan speed around 60% at 60c, 65% at 65c, 70-75% at 70c and keep stepping it up like that until it maxes at 100 around 85. Dont really want to run them at 100 but fans are cheap and vid cards are not.

Mine stays at a stable 80fps with everything graphically maxed out with a 3090 on a Aorus fo48u 4k monitor like that with temps never going over 74. Mine is set to 73%@70 and 80%@75c. I also have the side of tower off and a small amazon fan running on medium blowing on card which helps a lot and is quieter than case fans, just make sure to blow it out more often if you do that.

[Mirona]

dont listen to him. he is wasting your time. wait for a patch

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Mirona:

dont listen to him. he is wasting your time. wait for a patch

Dont listen to bitter trolls like this that constantly crash themselves all the time and yell at everyone who doesnt crash about how its not their rig its the game. His own post about constantly crashing and replies to people in there should tell you all you need to know about listening to this guy who is better put on ignore.

I havent crashed once in weeks and the few times I did i traced it down to a bad stick of ram that fixed all my issues when replaced. You dont need a patch to fix what isnt broken, just enough patience and common sense to track down and address the actual issue.

[Mirona]

yeah immuk every patchnotes of this game starts with crash fixes because the game is not broken.

Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 08.04.23
Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 383,678


--Performance and Crashes--

• Initial optimizations to improve overall performance.

• Updates to improve hitching and potential crashes.

• Fixed multiple reported crash bugs.
----------------------------------------------------------
Remnant 2 Patch Notes: 08.10.23
Patch Version: 384,210

--Performance and Crashes--

• Ongoing optimizations to improve overall performance.

• Fixed multiple reported crash bugs.

• Potential fix for "GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread" crash.

------------------------------------------------------------
Remnant II Patch Notes: 8.17.23
Remnant II Patch Notes: 384,830
--Performance and Crashes—
• Updates to reduce potential crashes.
• Addressed an issue where game would hang on Remnant II logo screen for some players when first starting the game.
• Fixed various issues causing memory leaks.


ignore these some more and tell people some useless advice how to fix their game because its not crashing for you. delusional people

the game even crashes on console...

[speedup.gogo]

You might need to up juice on your cpu in bios.. also you might want to look into what your load line calibration is set to. This game has large power spikes and your system needs to adjust on the fly for that.., On my z790 i have my msi carbon wifi set to loadline 7 and upped my voltage for my 13900k.. also you might want to look in your virtual memory allocation and set it for another 100,000 mb . my setup is 13900k , msi suprim x 4090 and 7200mhz ddr5 ... Im glad i didnt due to hrs played but i would of returned this game for all the frustration it brought me ; but it also made me address bad overclocks/settings. I also did a backup with a full windows wipe to start fresh... Now i dont ever get above 45c and no crashes..

[Kozary]

this game is not demanding powerwise and thus does not generate much heat compared to dx11 titles. Guess it took it easy on shaders