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𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖 Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:21am
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Nerf the Enigma
at this current build there is absolutely NO reason to use any other side arm besides the enigma, youd make your game actually 10x more difficult if you wasnt using it thats how op it is right now.
Originally posted by Army of Optimists:
Originally posted by PK_Thunder:
What you just did is a bad faith act called argument by absurdity.

Enigma isn't comparable to that, no one is talking about such a thing, and your actual argument can't be defended so you try to dodge salient points.

I have my own opinions on the Enigma, but the 11th page isn't the place to air them.

What I wanted to comment on was your "argument by absurdity." The actual argument method is called reductdio ad absurdum, or "reduce to absurdity" and it isn't fallacy. In fact, it's a valid way to expose fallacious reasoning - usually statements that make sweeping "always", "never", "everyone", or "nobody" claims.

The guy you responded to showed a valid statement. We'd all likely agree that including an absurd, overpowered, and easily obtained instant-kill weapon is a poor idea even in a PvE game. That supports the argument that balance is important to some degree even in non-competitive games, we just disagree on where that line is. Reductio ad absurdum is exposing the fallacious idea often claimed that "balance is never important in a PvE game."
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Drimon Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:25am 
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This is not a PvP Game so why Nerf any Weapon lol.
Same as in Dark Souls or Elden Ring... if you want to use Easy Mode Magic just do it but if you want a more fun and harder Game just dont
Omence072 Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:25am 
Good gun
Peter B Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:29am 
Why nerf in a single player game? Let people play the way the want and do the same yourself.
Originally posted by Drimon:
This is not a PvP Game so why Nerf any Weapon lol.
Same as in Dark Souls or Elden Ring... if you want to use Easy Mode Magic just do it but if you want a more fun and harder Game just dont


Originally posted by Peter B:
Why nerf in a single player game? Let people play the way the want and do the same yourself.
never said it is a pvp game, id like to use another weapon viably like a revolver or any other boss weapon but i dont see a purpose of doing that when the enigma melts hordes of enemies in seconds. the enigma is the only weapon that is op in the entire game, every other weapon is balanced completely why cant we balance the enigma like every other game was before release??
gxjin Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:37am 
Eventually they will nerf, patch, buff or fix the stuff in the game like they did in the first game.
Riut Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:50am 
I'd say the problem isn't that the enigma needs nerfing, it's that the game feels balanced around the enigma so the other guns feel trash in comparison.

Any time there's mob spawn enemies I can't imagine how you'd even hope to manage them without the insane AoE and group DPS of the Enigma. Towards the end I was putting down hordes as fast as I could and had more spawning in just as I finished leaving me without a chance to take some shots at the thing spawning them in and progress. If I was using any other sidearm I wouldn't even be using the sidearm they would be totally inadequate.

This was on solo nightmare btw. I do think the enigma is too strong but all the other sidearms are just so poor that the solution isn't to just nerf the one sidearm that is actually useful.
Last edited by Riut; Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:52am
Kashra Fall Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
at this current build there is absolutely NO reason to use any other side arm besides the enigma, youd make your game actually 10x more difficult if you wasnt using it thats how op it is right now.

You must not know about some of the more OP sidearms in the first game? It exists to have options, but it certainly isn't the best option.
Originally posted by Riut:
I'd say the problem isn't that the enigma needs nerfing, it's that the game feels balanced around the enigma so the other guns feel trash in comparison.

Any time there's mob spawn enemies I can't imagine how you'd even hope to manage them without the insane AoE and group DPS of the Enigma. Towards the end I was putting down hordes as fast as I could and had more spawning in just as I finished leaving me without a chance to take some shots at the thing spawning them in and progress. If I was using any other sidearm I wouldn't even be using the sidearm they would be totally inadequate.
this is literally facts and i truly dont understand how anyone could have argued against this either. but i feel like thats the issue at hand here, the enigma is so good that it makes every other gun completely useless and therefore creating such a solid meta that it makes all the effort and time took to creating and polishing all the other side arms just a waste of time.
Last edited by 𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖; Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:55am
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
at this current build there is absolutely NO reason to use any other side arm besides the enigma, youd make your game actually 10x more difficult if you wasnt using it thats how op it is right now.

You must not know about some of the more OP sidearms in the first game? It exists to have options, but it certainly isn't the best option.
this is remnant 2 ....
Kashra Fall Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

You must not know about some of the more OP sidearms in the first game? It exists to have options, but it certainly isn't the best option.
this is remnant 2 ....

Quite aware of that, you're complaining about a sidearm in remnant 2, there were also OP sidearms in remnant one that Tromped every other option, however, just like the enigma, they weren't the only option, nor the best option. Ever tried a side arm with a mod building mechanic+voltaic orb? Does what enigma does and better and it's fun to watch!
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
this is remnant 2 ....

Quite aware of that, you're complaining about a sidearm in remnant 2, there were also OP sidearms in remnant one that Tromped every other option, however, just like the enigma, they weren't the only option, nor the best option. Ever tried a side arm with a mod building mechanic+voltaic orb? Does what enigma does and better and it's fun to watch!
ive gotten pretty decently into the game and no game should have one almighty omega item oh so easily obtainable like the enigma is, a few op weapons is fine but theres only one
Kashra Fall Jul 25, 2023 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Quite aware of that, you're complaining about a sidearm in remnant 2, there were also OP sidearms in remnant one that Tromped every other option, however, just like the enigma, they weren't the only option, nor the best option. Ever tried a side arm with a mod building mechanic+voltaic orb? Does what enigma does and better and it's fun to watch!
ive gotten pretty decently into the game and no game should have one almighty omega item oh so easily obtainable like the enigma is, a few op weapons is fine but theres only one

I mean, that's just remnant lol. The lever action rifle and hunting pistol were STUPID Op in the first game, Slayer set+hunting pistol could easily hit 12k headshots, killing bosses in like 3 hits. Lever action's reload speed was so fast you were basically using the gunslinger's ability in this game lol. It's just down to how you want to play. I personally like the cube gun =P.
sadman Jul 25, 2023 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Drimon:
This is not a PvP Game so why Nerf any Weapon lol.
Same as in Dark Souls or Elden Ring... if you want to use Easy Mode Magic just do it but if you want a more fun and harder Game just dont
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Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:
ive gotten pretty decently into the game and no game should have one almighty omega item oh so easily obtainable like the enigma is, a few op weapons is fine but theres only one

I mean, that's just remnant lol. The lever action rifle and hunting pistol were STUPID Op in the first game, Slayer set+hunting pistol could easily hit 12k headshots, killing bosses in like 3 hits. Lever action's reload speed was so fast you were basically using the gunslinger's ability in this game lol. It's just down to how you want to play. I personally like the cube gun =P.
yeah that would be true for lower difficulties but in higher difficulties its just common sense to use whatever is best and the only side arm that trumps over everything else is the enigma, i wouldnt mind if 5 weapons were op but there is only one right now that is worth using.
suthi2 Jul 25, 2023 @ 10:05am 
Nerf the Enigma?
Why don't buff other weapon instead?
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