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TrashGarbage Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:16pm

Family Sharing

Are the devs active here at all? Why is family sharing disabled for a solo/co-op only game? Is it just disabled until the actual release day? Another member of our household owns the ult edition and wanted to share it to me, but was shocked to find it's not possible.

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breadman Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:29pm

not every game supports family share and they don't owe you it

TrashGarbage Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:35pm

Originally posted by breadman:
not every game supports family share and they don't owe you it

Very rarely, if at all, do non-pvp games disable family sharing. It's a weird, bad look, and your non answer isn't helpful whatsoever. Frankly, if it doesn't gain the feature on release day and they don't offer up a reason as to why they've chosen to disable it, they're going to lose more than a few sales (I know that the person in this house that bought the Ultimate will definitely be refunding over it otherwise)

The idea that you think I feel "owed" this feature is some kind of weird self-reflective nonsense too. I actually agree with the logic that not every game needs it.... but those games that shouldn't have it are the kinds of games where you could hop in on a different account griefing (or cheating) in a way that endangers the playerbase or game economy (neither of these things matter in a non mmo, non pvp style game where the default setting is friends-only coop as an option.

Last edited by TrashGarbage; Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:35pm

breadman Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:40pm

Originally posted by TrashGarbage:
Very rarely, if at all, do non-pvp games disable family sharing. It's a weird, bad look, and your non answer isn't helpful whatsoever.

not sure what kind of response you expected that could be categorized as helpful, a game either has family share or doesn't

Originally posted by TrashGarbage:
The idea that you think I feel "owed" this feature is some kind of weird self-reflective nonsense too.

lol what, dev either lets you share it or not, it's up their discretion

Last edited by breadman; Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:41pm

Akip Xof

Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:15pm

Tbh, every game should have family sharing without devs having an option to disable it.

If i buy a physical game, i can bring said game to my friends house perfectly fine. This would just be the PC version of that. Though i agree, the game should have it.

TrashGarbage Jul 23, 2023 @ 3:15pm

Originally posted by breadman:
Originally posted by TrashGarbage:
Very rarely, if at all, do non-pvp games disable family sharing. It's a weird, bad look, and your non answer isn't helpful whatsoever.
not sure what kind of response you expected that could be categorized as helpful, a game either has family share or doesn't
Originally posted by TrashGarbage:
The idea that you think I feel "owed" this feature is some kind of weird self-reflective nonsense too.
lol what, dev either lets you share it or not, it's up their discretion

That doesn't explain you jumping to conclusions and diving into a thread. You assumed 1 of 2 things: Either I would leave, feeling stupid and defeated, or that I would respond and you'd get a few more chances at boosting your own sense of entitlement (you feel entitled to ♥♥♥♥ post mic drop comments like you expect there are many who would echo your ideas, or that it's somehow your job to defend this forum)

Like it or not, if they exclude family sharing on this kind of game, it's going to hurt sales in a big way.

Originally posted by Akip Xof:
Tbh, every game should have family sharing without devs having an option to disable it.

If i buy a physical game, i can bring said game to my friends house perfectly fine. This would just be the PC version of that. Though i agree, the game should have it.

I can at least rationalize mmo and pvp games where you could exploit a given system using an alt account (or make a "free" twink, etc). But definitely the point stands that it makes no choice for a game like this.

Last edited by TrashGarbage; Jul 23, 2023 @ 3:18pm

Akip Xof

Jul 23, 2023 @ 9:35pm

PvP games generally have VAC, and im pretty sure if a family member gets whacked, you do as well. MMOs generally wouldnt matter much, either. If youre a legit player who trolls and gets banned, its generally too much work for you to do it all again to troll more, and family sharing doesnt scale for RMTs.

TrashGarbage Jul 24, 2023 @ 9:15am

Originally posted by Akip Xof:
PvP games generally have VAC, and im pretty sure if a family member gets whacked, you do as well. MMOs generally wouldnt matter much, either. If youre a legit player who trolls and gets banned, its generally too much work for you to do it all again to troll more, and family sharing doesnt scale for RMTs.

There are sooooo many pvp games that don't have vac, and many that rely on something as weak as eac for protection. Take Hunt Showdown for example: I totally get why crytek chooses to disable Family sharing for a pvp only game that relies 100% on EAC for defense against cheating.

They're fielding 1000's of reports a day as is, because (obviously) EAC can't keep their database in line with what's out there in real time. No VAC on the game means no account sharers getting banned, so they eliminate it as a possibility.

I'm not simping for share blocking, just pointing out that there are those cases where it works out fine. There are plenty of games out there with tacked on pvp that still allow sharing (of course many of them come with their own host of issues related to sharing and banning). Look at any Fromsoft title. I've been banned from DS3 before just for unknowingly having a cheater join my lobby. Until I got that ban overturned, account sharing was also disabled. Yet these games where pvp maintains a rabbid following, allow sharing.

It's an inelegant solution to a problem that has no real fix. At the end of the day the factor that probably has the most impact is (greed). There's definitely no real way to justify it overall (least of all in a primarily single player game)