Nightfall got smacked

[Dovah]

went from 41k dmg +6 to 37k dmg +10 thats a BIG nerf...

Why not BUFF other weapons why even nerfing in a PVE game?

[Kashra Fall]

Lol the nightfall was BROKEN in terms of damage. Your damage is low compared to what it could do. Gunslinger/hunter combo+the right skills used and rings, is easily 100k in one mod use. That Is VASTLY higher than anything else in the game, hence the guns popularity. The nerf was needed. You could melt bosses in literal seconds unless they had phase moments.

[Jeris]

yes, re-balance 40 items instead of just 2. logical.

[Hairball]

because they want to increase the difficulty of the game, not make it easier.

[Jubilation]

And yet you were still doing HALF the damage that it was capable of

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Gun was really overloaded. Still is, will probably still be bis for several builds. Now you have a reason to use the firerate mutator.

[Dovah]

Originally posted by Jubilation:

And yet you were still doing HALF the damage that it was capable of

Imagine testing damage with full rings buffs etc... lol

[Mr Fantastic]

Shame on those who asked for nerfs, no ones forces you to use those weapons. This from someone who never used the nightfall because I prefer guns with 100% uptime.

[79%]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Shame on those who asked for nerfs, no ones forces you to use those weapons. This from someone who never used the nightfall because I prefer guns with 100% uptime.

Balancing is never about what players are forced to use, it's about what tools are available to the players versus what they have to overcome. Unless they made a weapon that is unavailable for use, it is subject to balancing.

[Dovah]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Lol the nightfall was BROKEN in terms of damage. Your damage is low compared to what it could do. Gunslinger/hunter combo+the right skills used and rings, is easily 100k in one mod use. That Is VASTLY higher than anything else in the game, hence the guns popularity. The nerf was needed. You could melt bosses in literal seconds unless they had phase moments.

yes? problem in a PVE game? they can just add harder content.. no need to nerf stuff in a PVE game.. just buff other useless crap instead as 80% of all items are useless

[alan0n]

I swear to God the steam forums has trained monkeys to play these games. Its impossible to believe that actual sentient people are this dumb.

[Dovah]

but what to expect from a bad console Port that cant even optimize the game in the first place

[79%]

Originally posted by Dovah:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Lol the nightfall was BROKEN in terms of damage. Your damage is low compared to what it could do. Gunslinger/hunter combo+the right skills used and rings, is easily 100k in one mod use. That Is VASTLY higher than anything else in the game, hence the guns popularity. The nerf was needed. You could melt bosses in literal seconds unless they had phase moments.

yes? problem in a PVE game? they can just add harder content.. no need to nerf stuff in a PVE game.. just buff other useless crap instead as 80% of all items are useless

Also incorrect, the game can probably be beaten using any firearm available in game, or at the very least more than 20% of them, so they are far from useless, it's just that the better gear makes up for less skill.

[Jeris]

Anyone advocating for no nerfs is basically telling devs to ship games with everything under powered to start with. Because there can never be any re-balancing down in stats, only up. So better to make everything terrible to start with and look like heroes when you improve them.

[Caramello]

So u gotta shoot the weapon like 5 more times, that is not sly "smacked" in my book, could be worse, still pretty decent weapon and you still can maintain infinite mod upkeep.

[Aria Athena]

Expected