Am I understanding the ending? [SPOILERS duh]

[FallenActual]

Clementine saved the world and reset it to the point before your adventure started in R2 so you could fine a way to stop the root since the final boss couldn't be killed and was about to wipe everything out and FORD is never talked about so I assume it's planned DLC. So just like R1 it plays into the "cycle" of starting over and over again. What the devs fail to acknowledge is somehow it seems no one in ward 13 remembers anything or says anything about whats happening idk if that's an oversight in development or intentional but it leaves the ward feeling empty as there is no real acknowledgment of events apart from 2 instances. Also ACE from the first game is just the only character that is gone without a story as to why.

[Dootslayer]

Clementine nuked the universe but also stored it, except for earth 1.0 so it got destroyed basically ending the root and doing a “reroll” imo

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

Clementine nuked the universe but also stored it, except for earth 1.0 so it got destroyed basically ending the root and doing a “reroll” imo

but she tells you at the end to find a way or something iirc

[Valius]

i think she purged the root as we know them for the moment, but did not solve the corruption that the keeper mentions, which is why he wanted to study it.

weather its a metaphor for a complex computer system or not, when you look at it from that standpoint, the corruption may be a likely outcome (in that it will spawn, maybe not take over everything)

what is important to note is the keeper survived, more over he is "upgraded" by clem, or really he's becoming alive.

I think she paused everyone and removed them for a moment for their safety. I bet she has restored/fixed problems on many worlds and i bet the labyrinth is also restored.

I will even go so far as to draw a link between the corrupted portal and root earth (not the root earth portal)

further more, remember that our character may not really understand what happened/no how to explain it very well, or may also have been reset.

the real question is: why are we an anomaly! (among several others that are hinted at!)

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by V4L1US:

i think she purged the root as we know them for the moment, but did not solve the corruption that the keeper mentions, which is why he wanted to study it.

weather its a metaphor for a complex computer system or not, when you look at it from that standpoint, the corruption may be a likely outcome (in that it will spawn, maybe not take over everything)

what is important to note is the keeper survived, more over he is "upgraded" by clem, or really he's becoming alive.

I think she paused everyone and removed them for a moment for their safety. I bet she has restored/fixed problems on many worlds and i bet the labyrinth is also restored.

I will even go so far as to draw a link between the corrupted portal and root earth (not the root earth portal)

further more, remember that our character may not really understand what happened/no how to explain it very well, or may also have been reset.

the real question is: why are we an anomaly! (among several others that are hinted at!)

true it is mentioned though at the end iirc before you jump to root earth you can talk to the anomaly and he explains the root got in somehow or just appeared during R1 and he contained it within the labyrinth (the red door) but it grew out of his sight or something.

[TargetPractice]

From my understanding, Clementine basically compressed everything inside the index, and decompressed everything except the source of the corruption and probably herself. This might include all of the root, but that isn't clear.

Ford does have a diary that mentions being contacted by a friend from his old life. This friend used the World Stone, and while traveling, he likely came across the small cube he gifted to Ford. I'm guessing that the small cube is another Master Portal Key. With this cube, Ford decided to pickup the his old life's mission to stop the Root once and for all.

When we see Ford at the end of the game, he enters a small outpost, likely setup in his past life or by his old friend. From what little we can see outside the outpost, the world Ford is on could be Rhom.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by TargetPractice:

From my understanding, Clementine basically compressed everything inside the index, and decompressed everything except the source of the corruption and probably herself. This might include all of the root, but that isn't clear.

Ford does have a diary that mentions being contacted by a friend from his old life. This friend used the World Stone, and while traveling, he likely came across the small cube he gifted to Ford. I'm guessing that the small cube is another Master Portal Key. With this cube, Ford decided to pickup the his old life's mission to stop the Root once and for all.

When we see Ford at the end of the game, he enters a small outpost, likely setup in his past life or by his old friend. From what little we can see outside the outpost, the world Ford is on could be Rhom.

ah ok i thought that was just showing him in ward 13 as they forgot to take him out for that cutscene and isn't rhom just neru'd before the root took over after our character in R1 killed rhoms guardian?

[Sgt.JESUS]

We didnt killed Rhoms guardian, that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ did, Eslan, the one who took a bath in the guardian, creepy guy with 4 arms. I dont know what the canon is, did we help Eslan or the Corsus bug lady, i would love to see Rhom again though.

[TargetPractice]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

ah ok i thought that was just showing him in ward 13 as they forgot to take him out for that cutscene and isn't rhom just neru'd before the root took over after our character in R1 killed rhoms guardian?

N'Erud and Rhom are completely different places. N'Erud is a planet sized construct made to go to Alepsis-Taura, and Rhom is a planet turned into a desert after Ezlan nuked the surface to get rid of the Root.

I think most the places we have been have never had the root. N'Erud, Losomn, Corsus, Reisum, and The Labyrinth have no root presence. Yaesha only recently got invaded by the Root, and Rhom had the root, as mentioned earlier. Earth is the only planet I can think of that has always had a root presence, in the games.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Sgt.JESUS:

We didnt killed Rhoms guardian, that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ did, Eslan, the one who took a bath in the guardian, creepy guy with 4 arms. I dont know what the canon is, did we help Eslan or the Corsus bug lady, i would love to see Rhom again though.

fair point

Originally posted by TargetPractice:

Originally posted by FallenActual:

ah ok i thought that was just showing him in ward 13 as they forgot to take him out for that cutscene and isn't rhom just neru'd before the root took over after our character in R1 killed rhoms guardian?

N'Erud and Rhom are completely different places. N'Erud is a planet sized construct made to go to Alepsis-Taura, and Rhom is a planet turned into a desert after Ezlan nuked the surface to get rid of the Root.

I think most the places we have been have never had the root. N'Erud, Losomn, Corsus, Reisum, and The Labyrinth have no root presence. Yaesha only recently got invaded by the Root, and Rhom had the root, as mentioned earlier. Earth is the only planet I can think of that has always had a root presence, in the games.

ah ok thanks for the clarification

[Ao Bai Gaming]

There's a lot that the DLCs will probably explain, though my two sense on the matter is that Clementine basically said "Yaaah, it's rewind time" and used her powers to literally hit the rewind button on the universe's tape roll. As we can see by the ending scene, she goes back far enough to keep the current situation alive, but also all the problems with it. I think what the devs are going for is a sort of in-character meta knowledge. It's like playing a video game with multiple endings over and over until you get the best one, but instead of it being you that resets the game, it's the characters doing it.

In other words; Clementine, entrusting that you'll have the knowledge to stop the Root, thrusts the entirety of existence back in time, somewhere to the beginning of your journey, or even before that. She hopes that now, instead of you aimlessly wandering through worlds in search for her, or the Index pieces, or even Ford for that matter, you as the character will have the knowledge and the means to be ever more efficient. To poke and prod at the thresholds of the world, to find, as the Keeper says; "new possibilities".

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Ao Bai Gaming:

There's a lot that the DLCs will probably explain, though my two sense on the matter is that Clementine basically said "Yaaah, it's rewind time" and used her powers to literally hit the rewind button on the universe's tape roll. As we can see by the ending scene, she goes back far enough to keep the current situation alive, but also all the problems with it. I think what the devs are going for is a sort of in-character meta knowledge. It's like playing a video game with multiple endings over and over until you get the best one, but instead of it being you that resets the game, it's the characters doing it.

In other words; Clementine, entrusting that you'll have the knowledge to stop the Root, thrusts the entirety of existence back in time, somewhere to the beginning of your journey, or even before that. She hopes that now, instead of you aimlessly wandering through worlds in search for her, or the Index pieces, or even Ford for that matter, you as the character will have the knowledge and the means to be ever more efficient. To poke and prod at the thresholds of the world, to find, as the Keeper says; "new possibilities".

yeah thats pretty much what i thought

[Kel'Ithra]

Ford is following his own leads on how to end the situation, since apparently if you read his journal, he was contacted by an old colleague from the experiments. He's off trying to find them in order to find out what they discovered and if it will truly end the situation. Clem is a stop-gap measure to keep things from fully being destroyed and your character is basically buying time as best they can while Clem keeps resetting it until a final solution can be found without having to completely hard reset via the keeper.

And this might be a shocker, but the Traveler may in fact be the Wanderer, but an alternate copy of it. So the Wanderer in the first game might be an alternate version of the Traveler who was trying to stop it also. Thinking Harsgaar or whatever his name is was the true source, or maybe we did end it in 1, and 2 is how the travels began. As far as we know this could be the case, just because of how it works and because Remnant 2 might be the actual how it begins and due to how things are, our copies might not exactly be remembered the same way etc due to how convoluted the situation is with all the backup, corruption, fragmentation, and so on. This is probably why we do not play our initial character in 1, and why people react like they never met the Traveler. This might be how it all began for the Rem 1 character. Or just blowing hot air out of my ass, with how out of there the game is story-wise. But the fact the world gets restored before the character shows up and so on, who knows. But with the reset likely not being the first time, it kind of makes sense in my head, and something that feel can't be ignored due to how they are going about it story wise.

And the algorithm changed so the reset is different, and is always slightly different when it happens due to them trying different things, different paths, different choices etc. So Traveler possibly equals Wanderer, but before they became the Wanderer, there are infinite variations of the Traveler/Wanderer.

[Blodesheim]

Originally posted by Kel'Ithra:

Ford is following his own leads on how to end the situation, since apparently if you read his journal, he was contacted by an old colleague from the experiments. He's off trying to find them in order to find out what they discovered and if it will truly end the situation. Clem is a stop-gap measure to keep things from fully being destroyed and your character is basically buying time as best they can while Clem keeps resetting it until a final solution can be found without having to completely hard reset via the keeper.

And this might be a shocker, but the Traveler may in fact be the Wanderer, but an alternate copy of it. So the Wanderer in the first game might be an alternate version of the Traveler who was trying to stop it also. Thinking Harsgaar or whatever his name is was the true source, or maybe we did end it in 1, and 2 is how the travels began. As far as we know this could be the case, just because of how it works and because Remnant 2 might be the actual how it begins and due to how things are, our copies might not exactly be remembered the same way etc due to how convoluted the situation is with all the backup, corruption, fragmentation, and so on. This is probably why we do not play our initial character in 1, and why people react like they never met the Traveler. This might be how it all began for the Rem 1 character. Or just blowing hot air out of my ass, with how out of there the game is story-wise. But the fact the world gets restored before the character shows up and so on, who knows. But with the reset likely not being the first time, it kind of makes sense in my head, and something that feel can't be ignored due to how they are going about it story wise.

And the algorithm changed so the reset is different, and is always slightly different when it happens due to them trying different things, different paths, different choices etc. So Traveler possibly equals Wanderer, but before they became the Wanderer, there are infinite variations of the Traveler/Wanderer.

Hello! A couple of things I have to say about this, is that if you listen to the dialogue when speaking to everyone, they make clear references to the Wanderer having been there before, and how the Wanderer brought Clementine from Reisum to Ward 13. I of course could be missing some major points, but to me it was pretty clear they are two different people. I'm not denying your statement of there being different variations of the two due to the reset, but I believe it may be more along the line of a timeline scenario rather than changing story scenario.