About Friendly fire ON

[LinuX-LT]

Hello, what the point Friendly fire to turn that ON???, is it so called friends kill in the Base, to get MOCK me???? im sorry not, but this not happening again, cause that friends out of my friend list, i wont tolerate it, Game boses are still too powerfull enouth, now player friends kill each other it wont gonna happoen not on my watch...!!!

[Postman Pat]

I agree that I really don't like friendly fire - it makes a bunch of options in the game hard to use or anti-fun in team play. I guess one justification for that is "well, those are single player options" - but I don't see the point of it.

I'd further that the ammo system being all separate ammo counts is really bad, too. I was confused by this when playing Survival in Rem 1, too, where picking up a trait book only levels up the player who picked it up. It seems anti-multiplayer, which is perplexing.

[Insanitor]

Sounds like the Friend was the problem, not the Game.
It has also led to some amazingly funny scenarios of my friend firing at a boss "My shots aren't hitting it at all." and I'm at 15% health "Well, they hit something."
And the friendly fire in towns can be helpful to try out healing abilities and regen.

However, I am all for the option to turn it on and off, for people who doesn't see the appeal. But it should be a per character decision. As I don't want my friendly fired turned off for me, as I like having to consider, if I'm moving into my allies Firing Line.

And stuff like Explosives should always have friendly fire, no matter what.

[LinuX-LT]

I have enouth stress in my real life, not stress about in this Game..., i know you can replenishing, but still then you in Combat it hard to focus on all stuff all the time with ~~50 rounds.

[Xankrieg]

Friendly fire in this game is purely there so that you pay attention when running with summons or friends. Dont shoot your friends and theres no problem. be mindful of aoes.

The biggest issue is not being able to communicate to randoms about potential friendly fire builds with no form of chat system.

Though as much as i like having to be wary of where i aim when using summons. i do find it kind of annoying that summons can hurt each other and theres nothing the player can do to avoid it.

[LinuX-LT]

I like that game visuals and stuff, but damn that recovery health system, like in BOsses you heal in about 3.5 secs, and bosses hits like in half second, i now learned gluttony skill like 30% faster heals still, very very slow

[FknSparkles]

I've died to my friend a few times but I don't mind it as-long as its not on purpose. As you play with your team you should learn and grow together.

Like most things in this game its learning and overcoming new things.

[Xankrieg]

Originally posted by LinuX-LT:

I like that game visuals and stuff, but damn that recovery health system, like in BOsses you heal in about 3.5 secs, and bosses hits like in half second, i now learned gluttony skill like 30% faster heals still, very very slow

Eventually you can get the enlarged heart relic. Heals for twice as much as the starter realic and the use time is halved. although it does half your total relic uses.

[LinuX-LT]

Originally posted by Xankrieg:

Friendly fire in this game is purely there so that you pay attention when running with summons or friends. Dont shoot your friends and theres no problem. be mindful of aoes.

The biggest issue is not being able to communicate to randoms about potential friendly fire builds with no form of chat system.

Though as much as i like having to be wary of where i aim when using summons. i do find it kind of annoying that summons can hurt each other and theres nothing the player can do to avoid it.

Im not talkin about in COmbat or BOsses situations, im talking about IN Base situations.

[Watermelon Knife]

After being nuked by my teammates over 30 times now, I'm with you. especially with the meridian or starshot. However if I die that results in the boss dying, not a problem, however otherwise, then they hear their mild mannered friend swear like a irate sailor at them!

Fortunately we're all on voice software so we can communicate over when a team mate needs to get out of the NUKE area! Which leads to the problem with the game in itself that the lack of any self contained communication tool beyond emotes does highlight a bit of a problem.

So basically if you are pugging it and you see someone with one of those AOE Nuke like weapons, you need to be wary.

Now beyond that if people are just shooting you in the back, I would just quietly leave!

[Postman Pat]

I mean it's fine, I don't usually melt my teammates. I do agree with the general sentiment of OP that FF in this game is unfun, though. I thought the same of Rem 1. I don't really get **why** it's there. It makes entire weapons and builds nearly unusable in multiplayer, and I truly don't know why this was made and stuck to as a design choice. What is the "benefit" of players killing eachother with splash damage?

"it would be too easy"

Yeah but also, Enigma exists, so your point is invalid. And Melee has no friendly fire.

[Grimzy]

there is a friendly fire dmg reduction trait for a reason.... o.o
Friendly fire was always a thing in remnant. That will not change. If there were no friendly fire it would jsut result in brainless spam of mods and skill and actions.

[LinuX-LT]

Originally posted by FknSparkles:

I've died to my friend a few times but I don't mind it as-long as its not on purpose. As you play with your team you should learn and grow together.

Like most things in this game its learning and overcoming new things. :luv:

I dont mind too dieing in combat situations or at BOss, but if in BAse Friend killed like while i was upgrading at Blacksmith, its not acceptible, by the way there are like 50 meters away shooting range. He can train there like 24/7 in there but no he prefers my location. :((

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by LinuX-LT:

I dont mind too dieing in combat situations or at BOss, but if in BAse Friend killed like while i was upgrading at Blacksmith, its not acceptible, by the way there are like 50 meters away shooting range. He can train there like 24/7 in there but no he prefers my location. :((

Sounds like its definitely time for new friends.

[LinuX-LT]

Yap. that friends was out of my friend list, i dont wanna chaos in my Base, not for me.

[Jeris]

Grenade gun is great for killing your friends. Look into it!