Any point in upgrading weapons?

[Signed Picasso]

if the monsters scale to you. Is there any point in upgrading weapons? At least the mutators get a benefit at lvl 10. I havent noticed any for the weapons.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Signed Picasso:

if the monsters scale to you. Is there any point in upgrading weapons? At least with the mutator they get a benefit at lvl 10. I havent noticed any for the weapons.

The mutator needs at level 10, not the weapon.

[xKRISBUDx]

If u wana stay weak then stay weak, otherwise get max lvl weapons and it makes the game easy. who cares if they scale to your gear .

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by xKRISBUDx:

If u wana stay weak then stay weak, otherwise get max lvl weapons and it makes the game easy. who cares if they scale to your gear .

Cause it gets to a point where adds can melt you if you aren't careful, and bosses kill you in 2 hits on the easiest setting.

[xKRISBUDx]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Originally posted by xKRISBUDx:

If u wana stay weak then stay weak, otherwise get max lvl weapons and it makes the game easy. who cares if they scale to your gear .

Cause it gets to a point where adds can melt you if you aren't careful, and bosses kill you in 2 hits on the easiest setting.

Idk that doesn't happen to me . U do u I didn't want it to be simple(whats the point?) easy mode is way to stupid easy . I play for challenges tho , some like it easy and nothing wrong w having fun in a game.

[Signed Picasso]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Originally posted by Signed Picasso:

if the monsters scale to you. Is there any point in upgrading weapons? At least with the mutator they get a benefit at lvl 10. I havent noticed any for the weapons.

The mutator needs at level 10, not the weapon.

That's what I meant. My wording is a bit off.

[Signed Picasso]

If monsters scale, won't you always be "challenged"? I'm just saying the scrap is better spent on buffs and buying new options.

[Chairface Chippendale]

I personally didnt pass power level 13 and was able to solo apocalypse, the highest area in the game is naturally power 14 so going past that point seems to serve no purpose. That means dual archetypes both at lvl 10 and weapons at +9 (boss weapons at +4).

[Cutlass Jack]

Agreed. If monsters always scale to your weapon there's no point in upgrading them. Spend your resources on stuff that actually feels like an improvement.

[Doomteam]

After maxing 3 weapons even veteran became insane

[Sid]

areas have minimum levels throughout the campaign, you want to upgrade slowly to not fall too far behind.
your archetypes will push your level up a little by itself.

here's the dev post explaining the system in the first game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/remnantgame/comments/crs0i3/level_scaling_information/

do note some things have changed slightly however. (like the resource drops no longer using average of all)

base damage also goes up, which is relevant for things that scale using that and affect things that don't, such as life-steal.
conversely, things like shields get worse (since our damage reduction isn't upgrade-able in this game like it was the first).

[hey_buddy]

The game seems to scale enemies based off the average of your gear levels and character archetypes' levels, plus your trait points. So if you never upgrade your weapons, enemies will grow stronger according to the other variables, but your damage output will stagnate the most so you will feel weak. On the other hand if you upgrade your weapons enemies will level up further, yes, but at least your weapons will catch up and your damage output will feel more in line with them.

[bagonzago]

Almost all games with enemy scaling are dumb: Morrowind/Oblivion, FF8 (if you level up but don't max out your magick linking, you're getting weaker and weaker relative to the enemies)

And this game is no exception. Your effective power level relative to your ennemies will constantly seesaw as you level up your weapons a bit too much vs being a bit behind some boss levels. The rule of thumb is that underleved is better than overleveled. It's amazing.

[kaffekoppen]

I feel like the game is doing it wrong if you're even wondering whether it's a good idea to upgrade your gear. I get having to choose what to upgrade first, but if upgrading can be negative in itself, there's something wrong.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by kaffekoppen:

I feel like the game is doing it wrong if you're even wondering whether it's a good idea to upgrade your gear. I get having to choose what to upgrade first, but if upgrading can be negative in itself, there's something wrong.

wow people are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ shooters why do people have problems with this game?

[Signed Picasso]

Also consider if you don't upgrade your weapons, it's easier to swap out loadouts and try different builds.