The piss poor loot in this game is borderline trolling (OUTDATED POST)

[hey_buddy]

Edit: This post was made nearly after release when the game was in a buggy and unbalanced state. Now the game as a whole is in an entirely different shape so this post is completely obsolete.

We all agree the scrap and materials drop are way too low and everyone seems to agree that 60 trait points cap is just not enough for cool builds. Man I'm starting to wonder what were they thinking, constraining players to this ridiculous level is not fun in the slightest. I just beat my most gank "boss" fight so far (was more of a mobs/elites spam gimmick) and it was an absolute chore. I only pushed through the game ganking the sh* out of me hoping for some cool mod or mutator, at least a trait point. It gave me a new trait and that was it, it didn't even give a single point to invest in that trait, and droped 0 scrap. WTF. Just WTF. This game commits suicide by a 1000 cuts at every turn. Also on recommended specs performance is still awful. I downvoted this game and 10/10 would downvote again.

[Sygmaelle]

imagine having a bad build and then complaining on steam forums out of all places

[Vacknishkara]

This game doesn't value drop because it wants you to explore and try things to get gear.
If you rush the game, don't explore anything and play with the base archetypes/gears/traits, this is almost normal you are getting destroyed.

There are litteraly tons of fun and surprising builds around that revolves on different mechanics.

This game is designed so that not everything can be done in one go, since in a new campaign you'll get different maps/locations/bosses, which leads the way to more build components.

I would recommend you to try again considering the above.

[SpectralFX]

This game so far seems like a major trolling attempt.

The difficulty is absolutely "kick to the balls" cheapshot feeling, and unless you are using a specific build you can't even progress proper.

They keep giving out melee damage rings and amulets when they perfectly know that by design, melee is hopelessly useless in their boss fight design.

combine that with piss poor performance and I have no clue what brings people to that game.

[yuzhonglu]

You just have to figure out which weapons and archetypes are OP and use them. Also, DON'T START ON NIGHTMARE.

[hey_buddy]

Originally posted by Sygma:

imagine having a bad build and then complaining on steam forums out of all places

Ah yes, the brainless fanboy NPC response: "U must b bad at game". Personally I don't have any particular trouble with the trait cap. I specifically said "everyone seems to agree" because it's the common complain even from Remnant veterans. Even gunfire games acknowledged the possibility 60 is too little and they considered beforehand to increase the cap if players were discontent. Same thing with the scrap drops which do piss me off because I can't experiment in the early game to test stuff out, that's a real problem this game has. And a boss fight not droping anything at all is just a joke.

Man, imagine being so blinded by fanboyism that you make a fool of yourself in a steam forum.

[hey_buddy]

Jesus the fanboys of this game are really something aren't they. Anyone who brings a criticism gets clown awards, even if they rightfully complain about the awful performance. Ok fanboys. Keep on doing you. Let devs get away with releasing broken games I will be there to laugh at you with every broken release.

[Handbanana]

Oh since we all agree and you speak for everyone whats the point of making this thread? Maybe you should just respond to yourself since you already know all.

[󠁳]

Originally posted by ivan_skptc:

Originally posted by Sygma:

imagine having a bad build and then complaining on steam forums out of all places

Ah yes, the brainless fanboy NPC response: "U must b bad at game". Personally I don't have any particular trouble with the trait cap. I specifically said "everyone seems to agree" because it's the common complain even from Remnant veterans. Even gunfire games acknowledged the possibility 60 is too little and they considered beforehand to increase the cap if players were discontent. Same thing with the scrap drops which do piss me off because I can't experiment in the early game to test stuff out, that's a real problem this game has. And a boss fight not droping anything at all is just a joke.

Man, imagine being so blinded by fanboyism that you make a fool of yourself in a steam forum.

you dont realize it but what you describe is wanting an abundance of materials so great that early game doesnt exist and it would destroy mid game then make end game boring because you have everything, when i was exploring it was a slow slope of getting scrap and mats to upgrade my gear, i think i was using like 2 primaries, 2 melees, and 3 sidearms throughout the game and didnt run into the material issues you are describing

also devs have said that the trait system "isnt set in stone and subject to change" and that "the people actually complaining are a very very very small group"

Man, imagine being so blinded by rage that you make a food of yourself in a steam forum.

[Vacknishkara]

Originally posted by ShadeShot:

you dont realize it but what you describe is wanting an abundance of materials so great that early game doesnt exist and it would destroy mid game then make end game boring because you have everything, when i was exploring it was a slow slope of getting scrap and mats to upgrade my gear, i think i was using like 2 primaries, 2 melees, and 3 sidearms throughout the game and didnt run into the material issues you are describing

also devs have said that the trait system "isnt set in stone and subject to change" and that "the people actually complaining are a very very very small group"

Man, imagine being so blinded by rage that you make a food of yourself in a steam forum.

That's why i recommended him to actually explore the maps and don't wait too much on dropping.
I guess he is biased by the fact many others games (like diablo, PoE, mmo's, ...) throw you tons of mats and junk in the face all the time. I love it's not the fact in remnant 2 because that means no boring inventory management.

[Demogorgon]

Originally posted by ivan_skptc:

Jesus the fanboys of this game are really something aren't they. Anyone who brings a criticism gets clown awards, even if they rightfully complain about the awful performance. Ok fanboys. Keep on doing you. Let devs get away with releasing broken games I will be there to laugh at you with every broken release.

Do you have ibs, is that where are this uncontrollable farting about comes from?
You should know by now that fresh out of the oven games are full of annoyances.
Stop buying them at launch.

[hey_buddy]

Originally posted by ShadeShot:

Originally posted by ivan_skptc:

Ah yes, the brainless fanboy NPC response: "U must b bad at game". Personally I don't have any particular trouble with the trait cap. I specifically said "everyone seems to agree" because it's the common complain even from Remnant veterans. Even gunfire games acknowledged the possibility 60 is too little and they considered beforehand to increase the cap if players were discontent. Same thing with the scrap drops which do piss me off because I can't experiment in the early game to test stuff out, that's a real problem this game has. And a boss fight not droping anything at all is just a joke.

Man, imagine being so blinded by fanboyism that you make a fool of yourself in a steam forum.

you dont realize it but what you describe is wanting an abundance of materials so great that early game doesnt exist and it would destroy mid game then make end game boring because you have everything, when i was exploring it was a slow slope of getting scrap and mats to upgrade my gear, i think i was using like 2 primaries, 2 melees, and 3 sidearms throughout the game and didnt run into the material issues you are describing

also devs have said that the trait system "isnt set in stone and subject to change" and that "the people actually complaining are a very very very small group"

Man, imagine being so blinded by rage that you make a food of yourself in a steam forum.

Nope, you are straight up wrong about "abundance of materials". Having some more scrap in the early game may trivialize encounters in that early game if you over-upgrade to current zones, but very quickly the game would catch up and you eventually hit the maxed-out wall. Also you are strawmaning, I'm not asking to be able to buy and upgrade everything, just to have some slack while I figure out my build. It's not abundance but just reasonable amounts of materials.

About trait cap, in an interview they stated that while playtesting half players sayed would like more than what they got, other half sayed they wouldn't mind having less. Even then, it's still within reason to debate it, not to try and fail to sound cool by calling others bad at the game. Very easy to talk sh*t to strangers behind a forum in you mum's basement. Go outside and touch some grass.

[Mike]

No everyone is not you, so I don't agree with much of anything you said.

I'm 50+hrs in and I'm still getting unique weapons, build changing rings, amulets, mutators, relics, relic shards,...etc.

My current build is focused around the machine gun (challenger, and gunslinger class), and focuses on ammo conservation, fire rate, reload speed and weakpoint damage. At this point (2nd playthrough) I'm pretty much rambo if his machine gun had infinite ammo, and the fire rate got faster after every kill along with my two skills both of which boost fire rate while active. Its probably the most fun I've had in Remnant even the first game.

Also from the TONS of rings/weapons I have gotten, I already see crazy build potential, from explosion (AOE) builds (I have found both a main and side arm grenade launcher), elemental builds using melee weapons or various weapon mods (fire, shock, slow, posion...etc.), crit/sniper builds that focus on single shot damage, ranged melee focused build (throwing spear weapon)...etc.

If you say there is no build variety then you either have not found the cool stuff or your imagination is pretty bland and is unable to see the tons of synergies one can make with the gear you find in this game.

[hey_buddy]

Originally posted by Demogorgon:

Originally posted by ivan_skptc:

Jesus the fanboys of this game are really something aren't they. Anyone who brings a criticism gets clown awards, even if they rightfully complain about the awful performance. Ok fanboys. Keep on doing you. Let devs get away with releasing broken games I will be there to laugh at you with every broken release.

Do you have ibs, is that where are this uncontrollable farting about comes from?
You should know by now that fresh out of the oven games are full of annoyances.
Stop buying them at launch.

Yeah you are right on that last one. I let the hype take over and buy on release when I should've waited longer. Never again. But even then, so what? That doesn't excuse the as*hol* behavior these keyboard warriors have.

[Mister Lister the Sister Fister]

the way its harder to get scrap and such in your first playthrough actually makes it much more worth to do more playthroughs. you will get so much more scrap when you pick up items you already had.

all i see in your line of text is "WAAAAAAAA I SUCK AT THIS GAME PLS GIVE ME SCRAP"

[Vacknishkara]

Originally posted by ivan_skptc:

Very easy to talk sh*t to strangers behind a forum in you mum's basement. Go outside and touch some grass.

Seriously, what did you expected when you wrote your original post ?
Read it again, it is soaking disgust, distrust and anger, it was only a matter of time before things escalate and peoples start to throw sh:t at each other.

Next time you'll want to vent on steam, think twice.