Archon Level 10.

[Miro Fox]

I think they should remove the "Every special ability lowers its duration" from it.

if you look at every other level 10, its staggering in comparison to the rest.

Example: engineers level 10, is an AOE monster that one-Two shots most elites. and lasts minutes. and has an UNLIMITED AMMO MODE

Summoners is a giant brute thats fast at attacking, has 7,000 HP, Heals when you do, Does MASSIVE damage and has a ranged attack.

meanwhile archons over here with its 5-10 second ability that does almost no damage, its blink is far inferior to Worm hole, and prevents you from healing.

its honestly pretty lackluster of a 10.

[Grimzy]

Judging by your post, you clearly have no idea how busted his 3rd ability is...

[jojokaizer]

you have to gear for it to do damage, and it does a lot of damage if you build correctly.

[Caramello]

Father, forgive them, for they do not know what the hell they are talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmiY7xGfrs

[saice]

I have to say Archon is fine and mixes well with a lot of archetypes

I will say Engineer or Alchemist are my two go tos

[Miro Fox]

Originally posted by Caramello:

Father, forgive them, for they do not know what the hell they are talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmiY7xGfrs

heres the thing with that build though.

once you exceed 100% Skill speed archon no longer hits anything with his M1.

[DaxiraxJr]

"Almost no damage" lmao
I'm rocking elites in Apoc with my archon's 3rd skill. Go Engineer as secondary for the passive +50% skill damage. Build skill damage, skill speed and get the ring with crits = 3% cooldown reduction for skills. Don't worry about building for skill cooldown because the ring will take care of that. Bonesaw + corrosive rounds gets it off cooldown in like 30 seconds. Don't go too high with skill speed because currently it's bugged where if you go too fast then it skips all the damage.
Edit: Also I skip skill duration because it comes back up so fast. So I can go back and forth faster.

[Miro Fox]

Originally posted by DaxiraxJr:

"Almost no damage" lmao
I'm rocking elites in Apoc with my archon's 3rd skill. Go Engineer as secondary for the passive +50% skill damage. Build skill damage, skill speed and get the ring with crits = 3% cooldown reduction for skills. Don't worry about building for skill cooldown because the ring will take care of that. Bonesaw + corrosive rounds gets it off cooldown in like 30 seconds. Don't go too high with skill speed because currently it's bugged where if you go too fast then it skips all the damage.
Edit: Also I skip skill duration because it comes back up so fast. So I can go back and forth faster.

if you dont bother to read 5 posts, why are you even here?

[DaxiraxJr]

Oh you mean the other posts that pointed out you don't know what you're talking about? Figured I'd educate you on how to do it proper is all.

[Kappa]

If we are lucky enough, Archon would be, along with enigma, be nerfed to match other archetypes/weapons, someday.

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by Kappa:

If we are lucky enough, Archon would be, along with enigma, be nerfed to match other archetypes/weapons, someday.

People like you are annoying.
Listen here fun police if you change how the ability works it will be a useless one.
The hunter-slinger duo is way stronger in consistent dps.
Should we nerf that too?
Let everyone use what they want

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

Originally posted by Kappa:

If we are lucky enough, Archon would be, along with enigma, be nerfed to match other archetypes/weapons, someday.

People like you are annoying.
Listen here fun police if you change how the ability works it will be a useless one.
The hunter-slinger duo is way stronger in consistent dps.
Should we nerf that too?
Let everyone use what they want

We are talking about an aoe weapon with high dps ( not physical ) that autotarget enemies.
I really get that you wanna faceroll, but I expect some balance rather than having to hope not to find people who use it ( or force them not to use it ) while in coop.

Alternatives are a thing, but when something is clearly broken there's nothing wrong expecting the devs to keep a look at it and, eventually, make what's above the curve more closer to the rest.

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

People like you are annoying.
Listen here fun police if you change how the ability works it will be a useless one.
The hunter-slinger duo is way stronger in consistent dps.
Should we nerf that too?
Let everyone use what they want

We are talking about an aoe weapon with high dps ( not physical ) that autotarget enemies.
I really get that you wanna faceroll, but I expect some balance rather than having to hope not to find people who use it ( or force them not to use it ) while in coop.

Alternatives are a thing, but when something is clearly broken there's nothing wrong expecting the devs to keep a look at it and, eventually, make what's above the curve more closer to the rest.

With a 120 sec cool-down. Others has a way higher dps uptime.

200 k damage in 2 seconds vs 40 000 every 10 seconds with a gunslinger. Use your brain and do some math, than we talk about nerfs . I don’t understand why I’m talking to you though

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

Originally posted by Kappa:

We are talking about an aoe weapon with high dps ( not physical ) that autotarget enemies.
I really get that you wanna faceroll, but I expect some balance rather than having to hope not to find people who use it ( or force them not to use it ) while in coop.

Alternatives are a thing, but when something is clearly broken there's nothing wrong expecting the devs to keep a look at it and, eventually, make what's above the curve more closer to the rest.

With a 120 sec cool-down. Others has a way higher dps uptime.

200 k damage in 2 seconds vs 40 000 every 10 seconds with a gunslinger. Use your brain and do some math, than we talk about nerfs . I don’t understand why I’m talking to you though

You are either trolling or not seeing the point.

50/50

It's not "nerf the enigma" it's "nerf what needs to be nerfed, adjusting their power".

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

With a 120 sec cool-down. Others has a way higher dps uptime.

200 k damage in 2 seconds vs 40 000 every 10 seconds with a gunslinger. Use your brain and do some math, than we talk about nerfs . I don’t understand why I’m talking to you though

You are either trolling or not seeing the point.

50/50

It's not "nerf the enigma" it's "nerf what needs to be nerfed, adjusting their power".

But who are you to decide to what needs to be nerfed?
It’s not your choice neither is mine.
But we shouldn’t nerf ♥♥♥♥, buff instead so everything would be viable on apocalypse
We shouldn’t care about balance on veteran and such for example

[Nei]

Originally posted by Caramello:

Father, forgive them, for they do not know what the hell they are talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmiY7xGfrs

that's a bug that will get fixed