How come the AI get OP as ♥♥♥♥ dive bombers but we don't?

[G13 TALOS]

A single dauntless strike is able to sink a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Kongo, and wreck a Yamato to the point where its useless, yet if I use dive bombers against a battleship, its light damage and no flooding?

[Urix]

Of course. Built under license here, it is known as FAL " Fusil Automatico Ligero - Light Automatic Rifle" and its heavier derivative, the FAP. Just a reinforced barrel on the original FAL, but you end up with something very similar to a 7.62 British Bren.

and YES, WE LOVE IT.

[Urix]

Oh no no, i just realized i was talking as in "our country", not myself. Sometimes my english slips, sorry.

I didnt serve on the War, my Father did. I just followed its steps later ^^

[JazzObserver127]

So what's going on here?

[boris.glevrk]

AWtruo127 の投稿を引用：

So what's going on here?

Some people trying to insist that bombs in this game should be designated damage value by TNT equivalent in kilogrames and got roasted.

And now they have retreated into their own circles.

[boris.glevrk]

dangiesey の投稿を引用：

It's quite easy to "game" the game were you to want to. By flying at maximum height and minimum speed, adjusting the bombsight isn't very hard, especially if you frequently pause and unpause the game. I was able to sink both CLs while flying level at 3000m an at 100 knots. Better yet, I didn't take any losses. Since this is effectively cheating and is able to reliably deliver bombs with pinpoint accuracy, I'll not do this again.

What I can say is that the 800kg bombs, as one would expect, are extremely effective against light cruisers. Three hits is certain to sink a ship, two will disable it (and possibly result in scuttling) and even one will do damage.

In another iteration of the engagement, I tried low-level "mast height" bombing. This worked, but the loss rate was no better -- and perhaps worse -- than it would have been if I'd just done a formation attack with torpedoes.

What I don't know is whether drop height effects bomb damage in the game. I believe than in real life, gravity-induced acceleration is a factor in AP bomb performance, because why wouldn't it be? If it isn't taken into account, low-level AP bombing might be a viable alternative to torpedoes, and I could see using a mixed flight of bomb and torpedo-armed aircraft. If three Kates could be expended to slow down or immobilize a BB so that torpedo bombers could attack it separate from the rest of the task force, it wouldn't be a terrible trade off.

1. I never tried this "high and slow" bombing technique as I assume getting the planes out of default speed could hinder its accuracy, but maybe I'll try. My experience in tutorial when you are supposed to use B17 to attack ships is poor, so I am kind of not daring to try higher altitudes.

2. 800kg bombs are good, really good. They even have different sound effects. (only used by American 1000lb and Japanese 800 kg bombs)
In the game files there are 800kg and 800kg AP bombs, I wonder which one the game is currently using.

3. I only use mast-height bombing for two situations:
a. playing as the US with buggy torpedo
b. having to deal with DDs with torpedo bombers.

4.I have tried using american 1000 lb AP bombs in mast height, it's just equally effective. I'd reckon the speed of the plane is enough to make them penetrate.
If there's any problem with skip-bombing with AP bombs, I'd guess it's the fact that you would likely hit the belt armor (though in practice I find them hit the deck anyway), instead of losing altitude acceleration.

[FishyPirateBeard]

boris.glevrk の投稿を引用：

And you will be reported for using "autistic" as an insult. Unfortunately I happened to be diagnosed as autism despite I don't feel much difference.

Ach - now that explains much then. The state of constant anger being part of your condition I understand now
You are not mean on purpose, you are simply sick and you need help.

What can we do to help you with your illness? You tell us. It is important that we help you feel better too. Sorry to have been lacking understanding until now, but we just could not know. Entschuldigung, truly.

You take good care brother. We will go through that together just fine, you can count on us.

[boris.glevrk]

FishyPirateBeard の投稿を引用：

Ach - now that explains much then.

It doesn't explain more than the fact that you, a person who used to argue with me, suddenly shows up at an unrelated (to our previous argument) to give yourself an excuse.

[FishyPirateBeard]

Ach. Well excuse-me, it's just that having been diagnosed with autism myself, I am happy to know that I am not alone in my handicap and that you are also somebody who courageously chose to live proudly with it. S! I salute you Mein Herr.

[G13 TALOS]

boris.glevrk の投稿を引用：

Holy_Crusader の投稿を引用：

don't be a snitch

I'm sorry, as a non-native speaker of English I had to google "snitch" and I still find it weird.
I'm not his, uhh... partner on doing something bad or anything, why would that make me a snitch?

Anyway, is your original question answered? Aside from RNG being RNG, the reason why Japanese DBs deal less damage is because they carry smaller bombs, and probably also because Japanese planes generally have worse survivability?

By the way, if you get two carriers, 24 dive bombers in one go should be enough to deal considerable damage to a US BB, if not actually sinking it.
I recently found out using Torpedo bombers and carry bombs for level bombing also works against targets as big as a BB or CV. Just five 800kg bomb hits could seriously cripple, if not sinking, a North Carolina.

yeah question is answered, I'd swear the AI gets better RNG than us but what can you do

[boris.glevrk]

Holy_Crusader の投稿を引用：

yeah question is answered, I'd swear the AI gets better RNG than us but what can you do

Uhhhhhh yeah in terms of that we need to be very cautious.
Ever heard of a term called "Self-serving bias"? We all have such tendencies more or less.

I'd suggest doing 12xVal vs. South Dakota and 12x Dauntless vs. Yamato in custom battle. That'll be more fair and gives you the hang of it. Stuff like their respective firepower, AA, damage control, etc.