Fusō-Class 扶桑型戦艦

[ヤン]

I know there might be more important issues but I really miss the Fusō-Class battleships in this game would be so great if they are added at some point, what do you think about it ? or do any of you know why there are not included ?

[the Baron]

If i am not mistaken and i can be wrong about this. Fuso was in this time period a reserve BBs. One second...

"On 14 June, Fusō returned to Yokosuka and arrived back at Hashirajima on 24 June. In an effort to replace the aircraft carriers lost at the Battle of Midway, the navy made plans to convert the two Fusō-class ships to hybrid battleship-carriers, but the two Ise-class battleships were chosen instead. The ship was assigned to the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy at Etajima, Hiroshima, for use as a training ship between 15 November 1942 and 15 January 1943. Captain Keizō Komura assumed command on 5 December, and was relieved by Captain Nobumichi Tsuruoka[34][42] on 1 June the next year. Seven days later, Fusō rescued 353 survivors from Mutsu when that ship exploded at Hashirajima.[37]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Fus%C5%8D#World_War_II

[Player8]

yeah it would be nice to get a few more BBs and CVs for both sides - but i doubt we'll see anything until maybe end of year.

[ヤン]

Originally posted by the Baron:

If i am not mistaken and i can be wrong about this. Fuso was in this time period a reserve BBs. One second...

"On 14 June, Fusō returned to Yokosuka and arrived back at Hashirajima on 24 June. In an effort to replace the aircraft carriers lost at the Battle of Midway, the navy made plans to convert the two Fusō-class ships to hybrid battleship-carriers, but the two Ise-class battleships were chosen instead. The ship was assigned to the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy at Etajima, Hiroshima, for use as a training ship between 15 November 1942 and 15 January 1943. Captain Keizō Komura assumed command on 5 December, and was relieved by Captain Nobumichi Tsuruoka[34][42] on 1 June the next year. Seven days later, Fusō rescued 353 survivors from Mutsu when that ship exploded at Hashirajima.[37]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Fus%C5%8D#World_War_II

Thank you very much for your quick response, I didnt know that they have been taken out of service for some time to be reserve BB's or training Ships !. Would be a shame

[ヤン]

Originally posted by Player8:

yeah it would be nice to get a few more BBs and CVs for both sides - but i doubt we'll see anything until maybe end of year.

Yes true I miss Nagato and Mutsu as well and some American Dreadnoughts

[PorcoBravo]

i would love olaying with fuso

[kf.*****]

I agree, Ultimately we are missing several ships, true they may not have been deployed or been put in reserve, however that was a tactical choice and as such just like Yamamoto wasn't deployed to the campaign but was available. There is a valid argument to say you can only use a percentage of the available fleet the remainder is required in other areas of the pacific. However it is case of how practical that is to implement.

[PorcoBravo]

I guess right now the priority is fix bugs and small ganeplay improvements, not adding more content but I hope seeing more ships in the future too :)

[ヤン]

Originally posted by PorcoBravo:

I guess right now the priority is fix bugs and small ganeplay improvements, not adding more content but I hope seeing more ships in the future too :)

yes I agree with you, but after that I hope there will be a chance of adding new ships,
because
who wouldnt love to see a salvo of 12 x 14 inch shells from Fusō or Yamashiro

[dangiesey]

I think a strong case can be made for the Nagato-class ships. Mutsu was at the Battle of the Eastern Solomons and Nagato was theoretically available. I certainly think they'd be of great value as an IJN player as the Kongos are by design very lightly armored and while they can be successful in the cruiser-killer role that battlecruisers are best at, they're lightly armored even for that in my opinion and have some issues with remaining in good fighting shape.

The Yamato-class ships can be extremely useful if employed under the right circumstances, but are a massive investment. The Nagatos would be of greater use than the Kongos for bombardment and for engagements near the various islands in contention and while still likely outclassed by any of the modern US fast battleships, would have a better chance in a stand-up fight than the Kongos, who can only realistically defeat a US BB if they have a 2:1 (and preferably 3:1 or 4:1) advantage.

[Cpl. Hicks]

In heavens name why? The Fuso-class did not participate in any front line combat for most of the war because they were slow, sluggish and had a horrible lack of AA even by Japanese standards.

If you really want more battleships that badly, the Nagato-class would be better.

[Meteor2]

Any reason, why the real, available ships are not sufficient?
The game has more than enough problems for being serious. They should not expended even more into a game of sci-fi. 🙄

[ヤン]

Originally posted by Cpl. Hicks:

In heavens name why? The Fuso-class did not participate in any front line combat for most of the war because they were slow, sluggish and had a horrible lack of AA even by Japanese standards.

If you really want more battleships that badly, the Nagato-class would be better.

in my opinion The Fusō-Class has any right to be in the game even though I agree that the Nagato Class has more justification, and if you go by slow and sluggish plus bad AA you also have to remove Kongo Class than. whats the difference between Kongos 27.5 knots and Fusos 25. I think you are just a spoiled brat

[ヤン]

Originally posted by JG4_Meteor2:

Any reason, why the real, available ships are not sufficient?
The game has more than enough problems for being serious. They should not expended even more into a game of sci-fi. 🙄

I agree with you the game has more important issues than adding more ships, I was just wondering why such ships as Fuso and Nagato were left out. And if there is any chance of having them some time in the future. I do not think it has priority

[dangiesey]

Originally posted by JG4_Meteor2:

Any reason, why the real, available ships are not sufficient?
The game has more than enough problems for being serious. They should not expended even more into a game of sci-fi. 🙄

The game may still have problems, but I think there's a good argument for the "missing" ships. The Japanese largely failed to concentrate their forces on the decisive objective and in any case were very cautious in moments where they could have been more aggressive.

Think what you want about the Yamato. Duking it out with the South Dakota and Washington at night is bound to make more sense than Operation Ten-Go, and employing the Nagatos in that campaign is better than having them sit around in Japan and wait to either explode (Mutsu) or be sunk in a nuclear weapons test (Nagato).

With the US having relatively few carriers available and Japanese carrier resources also being rather limited, this campaign is arguably the best opportunity to use battleships decisively in the whole Pacific War. That's why I'd like to see them.

[Meteor2]

I was more arguing in the direction of „fix campaign mechanics first“. The ship roster should be historical and it would be fine to see most of them present in the game.
But first things first...🙄