The NPC companions are such complete cancer!

[SotiCoto]

I love the Monster Hunter series. I loved Stories despite its various flaws.
But I've nearly given up playing this game multiple times because of the NPC companions the game has forced upon me for the entire duration of the game.

At first I thought I was stuck with someone because it was still the tutorial section, and had to put up with her crappy AI messing up head-to-heads all over the place while she was allegedly trying to teach me how to play...

But no. Second area, new idiot. Third area, a returning idiot from Stories.

By this point I was trying to collect monsters and fill in the monsterpedia... but every time I try to lure a monster back to its nest, I have to put up with my imbecile of a companion getting the killing shot and stopping Den Protector from proccing (and as far as I can tell, they don't get the benefits of paintballs either)... and while I'm trying to register every damage type on every monster part, I have to deal with these idiots breaking parts I haven't finished mapping yet, necessitating doing the same monster over and over again...

For bonus points, they also love to wake up monsters I just put to sleep. Reminds me of randoms in Rise all over again.

Basically I'm fighting AGAINST the npc companions I'm lumped with on a constant basis... trying to achieve the rudimentary and necessary functions of the game IN SPITE of the efforts of these idiots to make it as difficult as humanly possible for me.

And don't get me started on Reverto. Who thought it was wise to give this guy a skill that makes him draw all aggro and have him spam it constantly whenever anyone is less than full health (which is always)? I take more damage with him using taunt than I do without it, as I can't Double Attack like that.


Anyway... the whole game experience so far has been soured because we were saddled with trolls for the entire duration of the plot.


[Amendment: Seems there is a lot of human cancer around here too.]

[Sionnach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

What was the monster doing making him taunt? just curious here

Merely existing.

His attack pattern was fairly consistent. The first turn he would use meat for some reason, then attack for two turns, then taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt... only occasionally breaking pattern for one or two attacks before going back to taunting. That includes not only when monsters burrowed into the ground (I sonic-bomb them out again instantly), but when monsters were trapped, knocked down, aiming attacks at myself or my monster... anything.

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0

Reported for the troll you are. Now leave. I don't have to put up with your false accusations.

[Talon]

I have had 2 save files starting fresh each and never had him do that at all, sounds very weird but even if he taunted on AOE skills surely you could of with stood the attack and got free heals cause he was taunting the monster to him? meaning easy set up for paint ball and finish blow if one was needed to higher the retreat.

But if you are having trouble with collecting certain monsti's just stick to everdens for the rarer ones such as BD or WM as they are 100% in those in the surrounding area saving you alot of time even from rare dens.

I only needed around 3-5 rare dens to get all eggs before I kept finding ones I already had or rainbow rarity for possible gene. Most A.I did for me was stop me using two kinships per battle when using kinship from a level 1 monster to get it out of the way and throw it back in the box to keep track for the achievement

[Spyro]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SotiCoto:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _:

Reverto more than makes up for his annoying traits with his absolutely insane damage. I dropped all companions the second I could, but the smoothest one to be with was Reverto in my opinion.

What damage? He doesn't do any damage while he is taunting, and he spends most of the time taunting. He is, hands down, THE WORST of the companions in my opinion. The only upside is that he doesn't break monster parts so quickly... but then neither does anyone else because he cripples the entire team's damage output.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spyro:

Not had any issues with them and have all the monsties I can get so far. I am at the snowy village and it's going fine

Then you're obviously not trying to complete the monsterpedia NOR chase monsters back to their nests.

I just said I have all the monsties you can get up to the snow village, and the npcs have been completely fine, sometimes get double attack with their monstie, they sometimes heal me, completely good teamwork from them. The main reason I am doing well though is that I switch out my monsties depending on what enemy I am facing and what their attack type is. You should learn them, it helps :)

Also the Rathian armour gives a skill that increases monster den chances, and if you use paintballs before you defeat them, that makes them go back too lmao

[Sionnach]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SotiCoto:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0

Reported for the troll you are. Now leave. I don't have to put up with your false accusations.

You're literally lying and everyone that sees this will know it as no one else experienced this, not a single soul. If that gets me banned for pointing out that you're lying, well, so be it. You just don't like that you got called out on it publicly.

My favorite part is that you're also the only person that FRAPs doesn't work for because Steam is somehow conflicting with it, despite what, millions of people using it with Steam at some point or another?

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

I have had 2 save files starting fresh each and never had him do that at all, sounds very weird but even if he taunted on AOE skills surely you could of with stood the attack and got free heals cause he was taunting the monster to him? meaning easy set up for paint ball and finish blow if one was needed to higher the retreat.

If I hadn't been overlevelled at the time it would have been a lot more dangerous than it was. I already had to heal him periodically for the damage he kept drawing to himself... though obviously not as much as it would have been if we were lower-levelled. Still, I can't just leave him to taunt himself to death as then we all lose.

But if you are having trouble with collecting certain monsti's just stick to everdens for the rarer ones such as BD or WM as they are 100% in those in the surrounding area saving you alot of time even from rare dens.

I don't know what those abbreviations mean. But it is the monsterpedia info I'm having the most trouble collecting because of the NPC shenanigans. Mostly because I need at least one hit from every damage type on every monster part to register it in the monsterpedia. Some parts break really easily, and the NPCs seem to target those in particular, which stops me getting the requisite 3 hits off on them.

[Talon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SotiCoto:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

I have had 2 save files starting fresh each and never had him do that at all, sounds very weird but even if he taunted on AOE skills surely you could of with stood the attack and got free heals cause he was taunting the monster to him? meaning easy set up for paint ball and finish blow if one was needed to higher the retreat.

If I hadn't been overlevelled at the time it would have been a lot more dangerous than it was. I already had to heal him periodically for the damage he kept drawing to himself... though obviously not as much as it would have been if we were lower-levelled. Still, I can't just leave him to taunt himself to death as then we all lose.

But if you are having trouble with collecting certain monsti's just stick to everdens for the rarer ones such as BD or WM as they are 100% in those in the surrounding area saving you alot of time even from rare dens.

I don't know what those abbreviations mean. But it is the monsterpedia info I'm having the most trouble collecting because of the NPC shenanigans. Mostly because I need at least one hit from every damage type on every monster part to register it in the monsterpedia. Some parts break really easily, and the NPCs seem to target those in particular, which stops me getting the requisite 3 hits off on them.

Black diablos and white mono you could always refight the monsters specially with quests that make them appear easier repeatable so easier to cycle through your weapons again to hit each part again but that shouldn't count for your monstipedia it is just so people know before hand which weapon is best to use on which part, far as I know using each weapon type on each body part doesn't count towards anything so no need to worry about it.

[Numen]

Least you can remove them in HR/Post game

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

Black diablos and white mono you could always refight the monsters specially with quests that make them appear easier repeatable so easier to cycle through your weapons again to hit each part again but that shouldn't count for your monstipedia it is just so people know before hand which weapon is best to use on which part, far as I know using each weapon type on each body part doesn't count towards anything so no need to worry about it.

Monsterpedia. The first one. Not the second.
It is on the last of the four data blips against each monster. Part data.
I'm working under the assumption that it is necessary for completion as the subquest to complete 50% of the monsterpedia is reading 43 despite my having 109 / 128 of the monsters, suggesting that merely having seen them isn't sufficient. That I need additional information on the monsters I've fought.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Numen:

Least you can remove them in HR/Post game

It'll be a bit late for that. I hate being rushed through the main quest. It effectively kills the plot from the game. But there is no other way to go about it, as trying to play normally alongside these arseholes is draining my will to carry on.

[Talon]

I really don't think that counts, the counts she wants is the ones you seen and fought, this goes into HR as well, the weapon smashing far as i know has nothing to do with it since her book counts up as e.g 46/50 how would weapon hits make sense for that type of counting?

She just wants to know how many different ones you seen/fought that are catchable far as I know


Can you imagine the pain of refighting monsters just for that one bow hit on a certain part? capcom may be crown size cruel but not weapon cruel. Heck some of my first island monsters in the book I only attacked with the sword yet it counts.

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

I really don't think that counts, the counts she wants is the ones you seen and fought, this goes into HR as well, the weapon smashing far as i know has nothing to do with it since her book counts up as e.g 46/50 how would weapon hits make sense for that type of counting?

She just wants to know how many different ones you seen/fought that are catchable far as I know

No no, again... it is the "Monsterpedia", not the "Monstipedia". They are two separate things. It is ALL monsters, not just the catchable ones.

Lemme just recheck the numbers...

I've now seen 112 / 128 monsters, and the quest info for Monsterpedia 50% shows "45/50". 112 is definitely a lot more than 45% of the monsterpedia... SO.... either it is hiding a lot of monsters without even showing question-marks for them... OR I'm missing a lot of information on those monsters I've already seen.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

Can you imagine the pain of refighting monsters just for that one bow hit on a certain part?

Yes. Because that is what I've been doing for most monsters so far, excluding a few I couldn't find anywhere (like Seltas). The game records which ones I've tried, so it is obviously meant to be filled in.

[Talon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SotiCoto:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

I really don't think that counts, the counts she wants is the ones you seen and fought, this goes into HR as well, the weapon smashing far as i know has nothing to do with it since her book counts up as e.g 46/50 how would weapon hits make sense for that type of counting?

She just wants to know how many different ones you seen/fought that are catchable far as I know

No no, again... it is the "Monsterpedia", not the "Monstipedia". They are two separate things. It is ALL monsters, not just the catchable ones.

Lemme just recheck the numbers...

I've now seen 112 / 128 monsters, and the quest info for Monsterpedia 50% shows "45/50". 112 is definitely a lot more than 45% of the monsterpedia... SO.... either it is hiding a lot of monsters without even showing question-marks for them... OR I'm missing a lot of information on those monsters I've already seen.

Some monsters are locked behind post-game this is why and some monsters appear in previous areas later into the story you are

Also if you fight a boss you still need to fight its normal version to count in the book as quest/boss varients count as their own post

Again the weapon count on each part is not needed for the monstipedia as far as i know and I am in post-game and the womans 2nd quest done just before post-game because some only appear in the final area while some are locked behind co-op only.

I will even ask my friend who has not bothered with weapon hits on each part but has pretty much 100% the monsterpedia


Again why would the quest count it was 46/50 if you needed monster parts 100% hit with each weapon type? it makes no sense at all to count it like that



I wish you luck with the rest of the game and the monsterpedia but I myself have nothing else to really put here so best of luck to you.

[SotiCoto]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vox:

Some monsters are locked behind post-game this is why and some monsters appear in previous areas later into the story you are

I see, but how many of them are there? Does that mean the total number of monsters in the game is massively higher than it displays? Odd that it would even bother listing a total I haven't reached yet if that total itself is meaningless...

Also if you fight a boss you still need to fight its normal version to count in the book as quest/boss varients count as their own post

I know that. It is kinda obvious because when I fight the regular version, the healthbar is still invisible the first turn and all the damage type markers are reset.

Again the weapon count on each part is not needed for the monstipedia as far as i know and I am in post-game and the womans 2nd quest done just before post-game because some only appear in the final area.

Well, I'm still trying in case it makes any difference. Seems odd that it would bother recording that information and showing it if it weren't necessary.

[Marosh]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SotiCoto:

It is on the last of the four data blips against each monster. Part data.
I'm working under the assumption that it is necessary for completion as the subquest to complete 50% of the monsterpedia is reading 43 despite my having 109 / 128

This number is useless. No, for real. I don't even know what it shows. The number of unique monsters in the game? Could be.
It is 100% not an indicator for your monsterpedia completion. Just check it for yourself. From your first page, go left. What number has the last entry during story? 217.

Those side missions marked as (hard) with unique monster names count, so my guess is, that HR also counts towards completion, which means you have to fight aaaallll monster again in HR later. But the HR tab isn't there until you reach HR.
Don't bother with mapping all weapons. It's not needed. My numbers matches yours almost and I didn't bother with it.