What is the best level 3 ki blast?

[Gredric]

This is a discussion I want to ask because I still am not sure myself. We have the rapid fire pellets sphere's like base form goten and trunks use. The rapid fire beams that kid buu and SS trunks uses. We have destructo disk which krillin and 18 use. We have the beam attacks most characters use (Gogeta, goku, gohan.) We have vegeta's rapid fire ki blast. And I think the weird character specific single shots like Ginyu, 17, bardock.

So of these, which do people consider the best?

[Ao Bai Gaming]

I think the title of "best" basic Ki Blast is tied with any form of SSJ Kamehameha like any SSJ and above form Goku has, and the double beam shots like Pan, SSJ Kid Trunks, etc. The reason I say they're tied for being the best is because both are extremely good for different reasons, and sets them at the top of their list for viability.

SSJ Kame is amazing for sniping, has fast animations for a laser blast basic, deals good damage, and its hitboxes are very good, most of the time it doesn't miss if you're close enough, even if the Raider is flying away. It's good for STM defense because you can just casually fly around the STM from afar and deal enough damage to where the Raider can't outright ignore you, but unlike other blasts such as double beams or double orbs, you have to somewhat just run away if the Raider begins targeting you, because they'll get chip damage through the endlag of your kame animations.

Double Beams, on the other hand, are amazing for stalling the Raider in a 1v1. Unless the Raider is Jeice/Burter, LVL1/LVL2 Frieza, Super Buu, or Broly, the double beam shots can just outright nullify all of a Raiders efforts to damage you. Their range is limited, but they allow you to be an absolute pest with other types of ranged super attacks from the skybox during STM defense. If the Raider approaches you, just go on the defensive and they likely won't get any meaningful damage off for the amount of time your teammates get to work on STM uncontested.

Both have good uses, and I'd consider the Dual Beams the best for solo play due to how reliable it is for defense, but with a proper team (even just competent players in solo que), SSJ Kame takes superiority due to its larger damage and less energy cost when you're not LVL4.

[Gredric]

Originally posted by Ao Bai Gaming:

I think the title of "best" basic Ki Blast is tied with any form of SSJ Kamehameha like any SSJ and above form Goku has, and the double beam shots like Pan, SSJ Kid Trunks, etc. The reason I say they're tied for being the best is because both are extremely good for different reasons, and sets them at the top of their list for viability.

SSJ Kame is amazing for sniping, has fast animations for a laser blast basic, deals good damage, and its hitboxes are very good, most of the time it doesn't miss if you're close enough, even if the Raider is flying away. It's good for STM defense because you can just casually fly around the STM from afar and deal enough damage to where the Raider can't outright ignore you, but unlike other blasts such as double beams or double orbs, you have to somewhat just run away if the Raider begins targeting you, because they'll get chip damage through the endlag of your kame animations.

Double Beams, on the other hand, are amazing for stalling the Raider in a 1v1. Unless the Raider is Jeice/Burter, LVL1/LVL2 Frieza, Super Buu, or Broly, the double beam shots can just outright nullify all of a Raiders efforts to damage you. Their range is limited, but they allow you to be an absolute pest with other types of ranged super attacks from the skybox during STM defense. If the Raider approaches you, just go on the defensive and they likely won't get any meaningful damage off for the amount of time your teammates get to work on STM uncontested.

Both have good uses, and I'd consider the Dual Beams the best for solo play due to how reliable it is for defense, but with a proper team (even just competent players in solo que), SSJ Kame takes superiority due to its larger damage and less energy cost when you're not LVL4.

I really wish I could just choose my ki blasts at points. I'd rather have the twin beams on say gogeta or the SSB's but I'm not allowed that.

[Ao Bai Gaming]

Originally posted by Murky the murloc:

Originally posted by Ao Bai Gaming:

I think the title of "best" basic Ki Blast is tied with any form of SSJ Kamehameha like any SSJ and above form Goku has, and the double beam shots like Pan, SSJ Kid Trunks, etc. The reason I say they're tied for being the best is because both are extremely good for different reasons, and sets them at the top of their list for viability.

SSJ Kame is amazing for sniping, has fast animations for a laser blast basic, deals good damage, and its hitboxes are very good, most of the time it doesn't miss if you're close enough, even if the Raider is flying away. It's good for STM defense because you can just casually fly around the STM from afar and deal enough damage to where the Raider can't outright ignore you, but unlike other blasts such as double beams or double orbs, you have to somewhat just run away if the Raider begins targeting you, because they'll get chip damage through the endlag of your kame animations.

Double Beams, on the other hand, are amazing for stalling the Raider in a 1v1. Unless the Raider is Jeice/Burter, LVL1/LVL2 Frieza, Super Buu, or Broly, the double beam shots can just outright nullify all of a Raiders efforts to damage you. Their range is limited, but they allow you to be an absolute pest with other types of ranged super attacks from the skybox during STM defense. If the Raider approaches you, just go on the defensive and they likely won't get any meaningful damage off for the amount of time your teammates get to work on STM uncontested.

Both have good uses, and I'd consider the Dual Beams the best for solo play due to how reliable it is for defense, but with a proper team (even just competent players in solo que), SSJ Kame takes superiority due to its larger damage and less energy cost when you're not LVL4.

I really wish I could just choose my ki blasts at points. I'd rather have the twin beams on say gogeta or the SSB's but I'm not allowed that.

To be fair if they allowed us interchangeable blasts 90% of the Transphere roster would actually become viable picks over the "meta" transpheres. At the moment you're only really allowed specific transpheres to not be "trolling" or "throwing" in this new ranked setting. I'd love to be able to use the SSJ Kame variant on krillin because the Destructio Disc super is actually still pretty serviceable, but the basic blast Destructo Disc is blown out the water by other basic Ki Blasts.

[Bargs]

If ya ask me I find that Double Lazers & Cell Ki Blasts are best, yet the Super Kame's & Gallicks are also pretty good at long range, whereas the other two are better at mid or short range & better defensively

The Cell Ki Blasts will normally clash with other ball based Ki blasts such as Cells & Vegetas, have less endlag, & still are great at dealing damage
Somewhat less good than Double Lazers but still get the job done better than most

Lazers outright nullify Level 3 Frieza, most of Cells, Recoomes, Guldos, Fat Buu, & most of Vegetas Ki Blasts, & Nappas single ki blasts (not his alt fire), yes but only at mid range or further, if you're too close, you might be able to get away with it against Imperfect Cell or Fat Buu, maybe Recoome even, but it won't work on anyone else with Ball Ki Blasts if they're too close

I say Super Kame's & Gallicks are better for offense is since they're capable of sniping from afar while dealing good damage, yet they kinda suck if you're trying to approach (Gallick is basically a faster beam than Kame but deals a bit less damage)
Normal Kame's ok, but doesnt do as much damage as Super Kame
Obv one of the bigger advantages of using mouse over stick

Vegeta Finish Breaker used to get cancelled out by ki blasts, but no longer does
Not sure if this is the same case for Jeice & Burters Spiral Super

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survivors have a frieza disc that i think is pretty good it tracks and it penetrates the raiders ki blasts

imo raider frieza 3 ki blasts are nuts lol