how to play better with broly?

[Blade ☢]

looking for advice to play as broly have only played a few matches as him but do find it difficult when fighting a super transfer guy( the blue orbs), cant seem to put in much damage as other broly players do and even if i get closer its just a jump dash spam to so if i can even hit them before i get swarmed with the other raiders. i do better as other raiders but just feel like most of his attacks are to slow and don't hit very often well for me at least.

any advice would be great to be a better raider as him

[TECH-NOIR]

I'm trying to figure that out myself. Seems to me like if you're going to go up against any high level survivors you're better off playing as another raider.

[Lokke]

Broly has a very easy early game and a very hard end game.
Best solution would be taking out survivors as fast as possible early. I'm not telling you to body camp (I try not to myself) but when they find keys, set all, stm came down and super transfer it's most of the time over.

When the match start, use your dash (4 on keyboard) to dash to the spawns of the survivor and down 1 or 2. imediatly dash to the next area and look for more. Only take civs after you down a player and hear them nearby because then they can not revive the player as fast as when you instantly move away.

If you get into fight and are already DC 3 or 4, try to get as many players into an fight and than use your barrier to auto aim shoot them while running/dashing away or your super. It's not a bad strategie to run away and use your ki blast/spam but don't forget the stm.
A good and loud headset as raider helps too very much.

Like I said: Broly is one of the easiest early game but struggle endgame and is hard to master.

**Edit*
Also, If they try to escape, use your 1 to draw them to you and cancle all there skills.

**Edit2**
And for your AD, save it. I personaly like it when everyone transform and follow me, fly into a corner from an area (let's say Area A) and when everyone in there and have a long way to next area or mid, destroy it. Sometimes 1 or more die, sometimes they all survive but there transformation is over.
I also destroy only found and placed areas because with STM it's get dangerous. I only destroy areas that are mission if I am sure I can win this fight and there are only 4 left.

[Mtwarrior]

yell more

[Yian Yan]

Originally posted by Mtwarrior:

yell more

This. This is key.

[Bargs]

Have responded to Jazz Monkeys post before with a question like this so if yer lookin for general advice, I'd suggest checkin out the response I made there
However there's one thing I forgot to add there, if yer goin up against someone with Unconscious Control esp a STS with that passive, there really isn't much of anything Broly can fight back with past level 2, even level 4 ki blasts wind up getting Unconscious controlled very easily, even melee'ing from what I saw & experienced does no good as it always whiffs

[GYAT]

Originally posted by Bargs:

Have responded to Jazz Monkeys post before with a question like this so if yer lookin for general advice, I'd suggest checkin out the response I made there
However there's one thing I forgot to add there, if yer goin up against someone with Unconscious Control esp a STS with that passive, there really isn't much of anything Broly can fight back with past level 2, even level 4 ki blasts wind up getting Unconscious controlled very easily, even melee'ing from what I saw & experienced does no good as it always whiffs

just experienced this barely its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ torture they really do need to let broly get a combo like the other raiders

[Bargs]

Originally posted by GYAT:

just experienced this barely its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ torture they really do need to let broly get a combo like the other raiders

Checked in a match with level 4 & his ki blasts cant even hit anyone with Unconscious Control even if yer firing IN THE PLAYERS FACE
Also for whatever reason on any level, melee'ing as Broly doesnt work on UC & it's already way more prone to whiff than any other Raider without UC in question

From my own experience & from what gameplay I've seen on vods if ya ask me, anyone saying Broly's "op" or "needs a nerf"are more than likely either having bad solo queue's or need to improve their own gameplay
& if it's a sts with just that passive let alone power to change the future &/or you're all going to pay, forget about it, it's like yer fighting the Ginyu Force as a survivor, or making
Even a semi competent solo queue team can kill Broly easily regardless
Broly feel like another Spopovich at that point

Frieza & Ginyu Force are still far more overwhelming & it might even get to the point where Majin Buu even is better than Broly

[maDEMOman]

Originally posted by Bargs:

Originally posted by GYAT:

just experienced this barely its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ torture they really do need to let broly get a combo like the other raiders

Checked in a match with level 4 & his ki blasts cant even hit anyone with Unconscious Control even if yer firing IN THE PLAYERS FACE
Also for whatever reason on any level, melee'ing as Broly doesnt work on UC & it's already way more prone to whiff than any other Raider without UC in question

From my own experience & from what gameplay I've seen on vods if ya ask me, anyone saying Broly's "op" or "needs a nerf"are more than likely either having bad solo queue's or need to improve their own gameplay
& if it's a sts with just that passive let alone power to change the future &/or you're all going to pay, forget about it, it's like yer fighting the Ginyu Force as a survivor, or making
Even a semi competent solo queue team can kill Broly easily regardless
Broly feel like another Spopovich at that point

Frieza & Ginyu Force are still far more overwhelming & it might even get to the point where Majin Buu even is better than Broly

If they're UCing. they arnt attacking. so destroy STM. the moment they start pewing you. just pew them back. They have MUCH less hp.

[Bargs]

Originally posted by maDEMOman:

If they're UCing. they arent attacking. so destroy STM. the moment they start pewing you. just pew them back. They have MUCH less hp.

Yeah, I understand that this is the general play for any raider, & in any other case ya would be right. Yet this is more of a "yes but actually no" kind of deal. It is the right call, yet Broly just doesn't have an answer that everyone else has. I mean even when I do "hit" the other player with UC with ki blasts, I hear the hitmarker sound yet their health doesn't deplete whatsoever. Plus melee'ing to punish that (as other raiders at least can) flat out doesn't work here. Power to Change the Future's just another pain on top of UC, & yer really in trouble if You're All Going to Pays added to the mix. He could come down to the stm & physically stop me himself more comfortably than against anyone else. Unless the sts player doesn't have UC, I get stupid lucky with one interaction by smacking the player into a wall to combo a bunch as a result of the former, or I somehow nuke him with a Gigantic Roar, I have no means of actually dealing damage to a Gogeta unless he really messes up or gets mad greedy. This is when Broly gets level 4. If the Broly is stuck at level 3, there's no shot, even without UC it's so easy to dodge everything he's got, & vice versa when I'm survivor. It's like playin level 3 Cell without a volley or having a way harder time getting a melee to connect vs at least one Ginyu as a survivor, let alone multiple.

Every other raider doesn't have these issues with their basic properties, yet Broly for whatever reason does. ItalianBronxGuy even has shown proof of this on twitch with many games over the past week on stream both as & against Broly. Sure he stomps noobs out & better players even can get unlucky as with any other match but idk, I already feel like he's only gonna get noticeably worse with time as long as he has these inane problems. Mainly speaking from my own experience on both sides, take it for what it's worth.

[Bargs]

Originally posted by TECH-NOIR:

I'm trying to figure that out myself. Seems to me like if you're going to go up against any high level survivors you're better off playing as another raider.

Have experienced myself on both sides & seen gameplay footage from ItalianBronxGuy that even a half competent team is plenty to stomp a Broly flat. His melee & ki blasts flat out don't work against UC (even at level 4 regardless of how close or far away ya are) & even have a hard time landing without UC, on top of everything he has bein so dam slow. Let alone when the sts player has UC, or even worse in combination with Power to Change the Future & You're All Going to Pay. Even the worst raider in the game (Vegeta imo) doesn't have these inane problems & can counter that.

[maDEMOman]

Originally posted by Bargs:

Originally posted by maDEMOman:

If they're UCing. they arent attacking. so destroy STM. the moment they start pewing you. just pew them back. They have MUCH less hp.

Yeah, I understand that this is the general play for any raider, & in any other case ya would be right. Yet this is more of a "yes but actually no" kind of deal. It is the right call, yet Broly just doesn't have an answer that everyone else has. I mean even when I do "hit" the other player with UC with ki blasts, I hear the hitmarker sound yet their health doesn't deplete whatsoever. Plus melee'ing to punish that (as other raiders at least can) flat out doesn't work here. Power to Change the Future's just another pain on top of UC, & yer really in trouble if You're All Going to Pays added to the mix. He could come down to the stm & physically stop me himself more comfortably than against anyone else. Unless the sts player doesn't have UC, I get stupid lucky with one interaction by smacking the player into a wall to combo a bunch as a result of the former, or I somehow nuke him with a Gigantic Roar, I have no means of actually dealing damage to a Gogeta unless he really messes up or gets mad greedy. This is when Broly gets level 4. If the Broly is stuck at level 3, there's no shot, even without UC it's so easy to dodge everything he's got, & vice versa when I'm survivor. It's like playin level 3 Cell without a volley or having a way harder time getting a melee to connect vs at least one Ginyu as a survivor, let alone multiple.

Every other raider doesn't have these issues with their basic properties, yet Broly for whatever reason does. ItalianBronxGuy even has shown proof of this on twitch with many games over the past week on stream both as & against Broly. Sure he stomps noobs out & better players even can get unlucky as with any other match but idk, I already feel like he's only gonna get noticeably worse with time as long as he has these inane problems. Mainly speaking from my own experience on both sides, take it for what it's worth.

lag is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing everyone has to deal with >_> Melee punish cant work because the punish-frames vanish spamming doesnt have just make it near impossible to attack.

But like i said before. if they arnt attacking or approaching you, feel free to ignore them till they do.
Omega Blaster works wonders for shooting at them while you're on STM.

Lets not bring bronx into this. he stomps people because he plays as mean as he possibly can.
Hes bodycamped, hes returned to bodies, hes key camped. he does EVERYTHING except cheating to win. i respect his skill but i do not like playing against him. ever. hes not fun.

[Bargs]

Originally posted by maDEMOman:

lag is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing everyone has to deal with >_> Melee punish cant work because the punish-frames vanish spamming doesnt have just make it near impossible to attack.

But like i said before. if they arent attacking or approaching you, feel free to ignore them till they do.
Omega Blaster works wonders for shooting at them while you're on STM.

Lets not bring bronx into this. he stomps people because he plays as mean as he possibly can.
Hes bodycamped, hes returned to bodies, hes key camped. he does EVERYTHING except cheating to win. i respect his skill but i do not like playing against him. ever. hes not fun.

omega blaster helps, until a survivor runs into it immediately.
lag is a ♥♥♥♥♥, however it's not even just that in this case. Even without lag in the mix, I'm telling you it does *not* work when yer Broly. I've done it so many times, & so many times it failed me unlike every other raider. Broly is mechanically dysfunctional against UC, & even without it he still has trouble getting a melee. Try hitting someone let alone multiple players with unconscious control, even with Level 4, you'll whiff forever. Against a half competent team & one sts with UC, It's game over. I've done every strat I can think of & seen, & in that scenario, it sadly all amounts to nothing.