Nerf or delete the Ginyu Force

[Akai Haato]

Most op ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Champ i have ever seen

[Sasquatchias]

Must not have played much against Frieza then.

[Halvos]

My god you people are cry babies. Oh no a new raider has come out, we must grab our pitch forks and cry OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP NERF NERF NERF, you guys did the same thing with Vegeta and then everyone everyone realized he's a glass cannon and can be easily beat to death as long as you don't let him get to stage 4

(Him blocking all beams because of his large main body hitbox that over laps with his tail was BS though.)

[TyranntX]

Originally posted by Halvos:

My god you people are cry babies. Oh no a new raider has come out, we must grab our pitch forks and cry OP OP OP OP OP OP OP OP NERF NERF NERF, you guys did the same thing with Vegeta and then everyone everyone realized he's a glass cannon and can be easily beat to death as long as you don't let him get to stage 4

(Him blocking all beams because of his large main body hitbox that over laps with his tail was BS though.)

Yeah, the Ginyus are anything but OP, they only feel that way because they're new and everyone wants to play them. So a proper strategy is yet to be formulated. And even when one is made it's not a 100% guarantee it will work, no plan to fight the raider is. Otherwise Raider would may as well be an unplayable AI

[Sasquatchias]

Honestly the go-to strategy I've seen being formed already is to -

1. Take out Guldo AFTER he is near evolution.
2. Avoid Recoome, go for keys / dragonballs and starve him of Civilians.
3. Try to get the STM down before or right as Jeice and Burter enter the field.
4. Kinda panic and flail if Ginyu comes onto the field before the STM is at least around 50% completion.

[Ao Bai Gaming]

Fair and balanced is the Raider that can hit you with a melee while you're changed and instantly destroy your barrier or down you if you happen to get damaged enough to run out, don't you know?

[Sasquatchias]

Originally posted by Ao Bai Gaming:

Fair and balanced is the Raider that can hit you with a melee while you're changed and instantly destroy your barrier or down you if you happen to get damaged enough to run out, don't you know?

That I actually agree as nonsense in need of getting nerfed / fixed, just like Vegeta's Vanish attack at the end of his combo following people who got knocked out of D-Change.

[Halvos]

Originally posted by Ao Bai Gaming:

Fair and balanced is the Raider that can hit you with a melee while you're changed and instantly destroy your barrier or down you if you happen to get damaged enough to run out, don't you know?

One ability does not make a character OP especially when they're so frail that they probably won't even get the chance to do it.

[EatMyMoistCake]

https://youtu.be/B5_vsBWVxdk

[Maddonious]

Yeah Dimps gave the raiders what they wanted. A raider who gets super strong and is going to reach level 4 no matter how hard you try to fight back and a knockback bar making rockets and other knockback abilities pointless.

Stun builds are the only thing to fight back now but the game doesn't even give people enough options to land them consistently without 3-4 people in voice chat.

[Sasquatchias]

Originally posted by Maddonious:

Yeah Dimps gave the raiders what they wanted. A raider who gets super strong and is going to reach level 4 no matter how hard you try to fight back and a knockback bar making rockets and other knockback abilities pointless.

Stun builds are the only thing to fight back now but the game doesn't even give people enough options to land them consistently without 3-4 people in voice chat.

They literally made it so Supers and Rockets in general do more damage to the knockback bar.

With Rockets you only need two to break the bar, and most Supers do a lot more damage to it with the bar usually breaking with a Stun + Super combo.

[Maddonious]

Originally posted by Sasquatchias:

Originally posted by Maddonious:

Yeah Dimps gave the raiders what they wanted. A raider who gets super strong and is going to reach level 4 no matter how hard you try to fight back and a knockback bar making rockets and other knockback abilities pointless.

Stun builds are the only thing to fight back now but the game doesn't even give people enough options to land them consistently without 3-4 people in voice chat.

They literally made it so Supers and Rockets in general do more damage to the knockback bar.

With Rockets you only need two to break the bar, and most Supers do a lot more damage to it with the bar usually breaking with a Stun + Super combo.

Right and who is gonna carry 2 rockets to protect their partners outside of a premade now? Also the golden rocket is kinda not as good anymore at holding/distracting the raider due to the weird 1 and a half knockbacks.

The whole point of the rockets was a annoyance/assistance in combat for others and now they took that very concept away for some reason without having to carry multiple for the same effect now.

Like dimps can't even figure out how the items should work this far into the games life. I'm still waiting on Senzu beans being able to give someone a few secs of invuln after self use to make them viable for getting away possibly.

[Mメ]

counter point, they are the most fearsome fighting force in the universe

[Him Kardashian]

Honestly the only thing I dislike about the ginyu force is that they get 4 health bars. If anything nobody deserves extra lives after level 3

[Maddonious]

Originally posted by Dr. Spankenstein, the Spanktopus:

Honestly the only thing I dislike about the ginyu force is that they get 4 health bars. If anything nobody deserves extra lives after level 3

That's the biggest issue to is their life bars and the inevitable arrival of the next in line.

•Their level 1 has a counter making it almost impossible to take out without 3-4 people on it before they can find 4 civs
•Their lvl 2 has insane distance clearing with the kick skill making it impossible to get away without IT
•Their lvl 3 has huge damage and speed meaning it's already on par with some of the level 4 from other raiders
Their level 4 has the ability to instantly kill anyone with machinegun ki blast as well as body change making it impossible to send in even the dragonball summon without them being instantly removed from the game.

They honestly made a raider based on raider feedback and this is gonna kill the game. I don't even play to win anymore when I seen a Ginyu because I know it's pointless. I just grab my dailies then leave.

[Looney128]

Originally posted by Bronya Zaychik:

Most op ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Champ i have ever seen

oh boy...