Nerf that scooter.

[TiggaWatt]

Oh yea, let's just add a scooter that allows a person to outrun the raider. Repeatedly. Throughout the match.

What hour of crunch were you on when you came up with that brilliant idea?
For clarities sake, whether people are being willfully obtuse, or just ignorant, I'm not talking about the VEHICLE, I'm talking about the ability scooter.

[Rabbit Soaker]

Yes, nerf one of the only things that is technically balanced versus the raider toolkit, despite how easy it is to destroy with most supers.

[maDEMOman]

have you tried shooting it before they get away? :)

[Team]

true the raider should always be able to 2 tap kill you within 2 seconds by pressing w + m1
and not using the rest of their abilities
/s

[Ao Bai Gaming]

Scooter haters just mad that Movement Speed (Dirt) is just terrible in comparison to pulling up on the raider in the whip.

[JamBeezer]

Scooters are only an issue if you don't have sight of them. Use them super attacks and they are gone.

[TiggaWatt]

Okay, but for real. The speed of the sprint scooter is absolutely broken, and I mean really, how can you disagree with that? You probably can't like half the troll replies, because that ♥♥♥♥ is just busted.

[Yian Yan]

Originally posted by TiggaWatt:

Okay, but for real. The speed of the sprint scooter is absolutely broken, and I mean really, how can you disagree with that? You probably can't like half the troll replies, because that ♥♥♥♥ is just busted.

While they're on the bike they can't do anything except pop open a Radar. They can't be boosting while the radar is open. The moment they hop off for any reason (including it being shot successfully) it's on cooldown for a little under a minute. Yes: if they get away you are almost certainly not catching them but the moment they actually do something tactically impactful they're vulnerable again for those 55-60 seconds. If they've waited to get their other cooldowns back before hopping off (to be safer) that's additional time of theirs that is wasted doing nothing.

I've never had a huge problem with it but my tune might change if I ran into a full lobby of bikers.

[TiggaWatt]

Originally posted by Yian Yan:

Originally posted by TiggaWatt:

Okay, but for real. The speed of the sprint scooter is absolutely broken, and I mean really, how can you disagree with that? You probably can't like half the troll replies, because that ♥♥♥♥ is just busted.

While they're on the bike they can't do anything except pop open a Radar. They can't be boosting while the radar is open. The moment they hop off for any reason (including it being shot successfully) it's on cooldown for a little under a minute. Yes: if they get away you are almost certainly not catching them but the moment they actually do something tactically impactful they're vulnerable again for those 55-60 seconds. If they've waited to get their other cooldowns back before hopping off (to be safer) that's additional time of theirs that is wasted doing nothing.

I've never had a huge problem with it but my tune might change if I ran into a full lobby of bikers.

While I haven't run into a lobby full of bikers that definitely explains things, because the specific scenario I'm complaining about the individual never gets off their scooter the entire match. The time it happened to me as Raider, I managed to catch them once and then they popped the scooter and were just *gone* the rest of the match. The other two times this has happened while I'm Survivor, the player just, hides somewhere on the scooter and never really does anything to help the team out.

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

i saw this and agreed with most of the commenters saying just to shoot them, but I ran into a fellow survivor at one point who had a scooter that was WAY WAY WAY faster than anything i'd seen before and I honestly wonder if that's really a good idea to keep around.

but it is only until they want to interact with anytihng (unless they find a naturally spawning scooter) so maybe it's okay.

[Bootleg VHS]

There isn't a lot of counterplay if you're found early on as a survivor. The scooter is the only truly useful active skill for getting away currently. Kaioken and the Grappling Hook can help, but a good raider can still follow you, so at best they buy some more time for the team. So the scooter is definitely OP when compared to the other abilities, but I imagine as more characters are added to the gacha and as skins, that will be the normal power level for active skills.

That said, I do think it could be nerfed a bit in a way that keeps it powerful for escape, but not completely abusable for the entire match. Simply giving it a 30-40 second timer with some kind of fuel gauge would fix most of the problems without ruining it.

[Stevie Wonder]

i agree with the op. scooter needs a nerf, and i say they because there is no counter play to it. you can't just super them, by the time the super attack animation is finish and the attack finnaly launched, they are already on the other side of the map.

I get giving survivors a means to escape but this isnt it. its way too damn fast
Sure have the speed a small bit faster then the regular ones you find on the map, but i say delete the speed boost button. You can still take the raider on a chase and wiggle left and right to dodge attacks

[Neialeis]

Originally posted by Stevie Wonder:

i agree with the op. scooter needs a nerf, and i say they because there is no counter play to it. you can't just super them, by the time the super attack animation is finish and the attack finnaly launched, they are already on the other side of the map.

I get giving survivors a means to escape but this isnt it. its way too damn fast
Sure have the speed a small bit faster then the regular ones you find on the map, but i say delete the speed boost button. You can still take the raider on a chase and wiggle left and right to dodge attacks

"the escape tool needs a nerf because the survivor can escape with it"

[Alex Fripouille]

Oh shut it, Frieza and Buu are broken beyond comprehension, let the survivors have that

[Missingno. Beta Forme]

Typical DbD survivor mains coming to the defense of anything that gives them an overwhelming advantage over the killer.

[カイラ]

LOL if a raider is having issues killing Survivors it's most definitely a Raider issue.