Senzu Beans shouldnt count as 1 of your 2 health state recoveries.

[C-Boy]

If you pop a senzu you get back in the action fast but guess what? the raider is just gonna ki blast you as soon as you do and when they execute you this time its permanent. Thats pretty lame.

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... Then don't use it when the Raider is still around...

[Hushed]

Or crawl away..

[Kashra Fall]

I show mercy if someone senzu's in the first few minutes of a game and I let their team res them, but a senzu bean was hardly ever (If ever) self used by a downed Z fighter, it was always fed to them. Use them for your teammates, or risk being out of the game if you use it at the wrong time.

[C-Boy]

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Or crawl away..

Originally posted by Beast:

... Then don't use it when the Raider is still around...

You two do realize the raider is gonna execute right away dont you? Either you pop it or you get your first down and drop your items.

[Hushed]

I dont like the self revive option because it gives people who want to be raider faster a no penalty pass out of the game.

[Hushed]

Originally posted by C Boy:

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Or crawl away..

Originally posted by Beast:

... Then don't use it when the Raider is still around...

You two do realize the raider is gonna execute right away dont you? Either you pop it or you get your first down and drop your items.

Its not ment to be a get away free card. Its supposed to be a situation use item for teammates or yourself if the raider is preoccupied. If you have friends on coms say hey stun him I'll sensu bean and escape.

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Originally posted by C Boy:

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Or crawl away..

Originally posted by Beast:

... Then don't use it when the Raider is still around...

You two do realize the raider is gonna execute right away dont you? Either you pop it or you get your first down and drop your items.

I would argue, don't get downed to end up in that situation in the first place. Twice even, if the execution is your concern.

[C-Boy]

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Originally posted by C Boy:

You two do realize the raider is gonna execute right away dont you? Either you pop it or you get your first down and drop your items.

Its not ment to be a get away free card. Its supposed to be a situation use item for teammates or yourself if the raider is preoccupied. If you have friends on coms say hey stun him I'll sensu bean and escape.

I still dont see why it needs to count as a revive. If it picked you up without taking away 1 of your 2 health states it would be fine and still balanced.

Originally posted by Beast:

Originally posted by C Boy:

You two do realize the raider is gonna execute right away dont you? Either you pop it or you get your first down and drop your items.

I would argue, don't get downed to end up in that situation in the first place. Twice even, if the execution is your concern.

Yeah and if you dont wanna find keys just dont play the game 4head...

[Hushed]

Originally posted by C Boy:

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Its not ment to be a get away free card. Its supposed to be a situation use item for teammates or yourself if the raider is preoccupied. If you have friends on coms say hey stun him I'll sensu bean and escape.

I still dont see why it needs to count as a revive. If it picked you up without taking away 1 of your 2 health states it would be fine and still balanced.

Originally posted by Beast:

I would argue, don't get downed to end up in that situation in the first place. Twice even, if the execution is your concern.

Yeah and if you dont wanna find keys just dont play the game 4head...

It counts as a revive because it is a revive, an instant revive. It saves time and can be used to save yourself in the right situations.

[Ao Bai Gaming]

I feel like a Senzu needs to do what a Senzu says it does, recovers a great amount of energy. I'd like that to be in the form of reviving someone with a barrier, that way the survivor at least has a chance after the "Bean Flex". Though without any change and being on the ground, you're still an easy kill for any competent raider, it would at least make it possible to use a bean on yourself if your teammates are distracting the Raider and effectively get away, instead of using the bean, be stuck in a stupid animation for 5 seconds, then just get hit by a stray Ki blast because the raider's auto-targeting decided it would be you who got sniped today. I've downed people I didn't even know were there as a Raider because I was chasing someone else and auto-targeting snapped to the other person.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

I dont like the self revive option because it gives people who want to be raider faster a no penalty pass out of the game.

THIS. Senzu Beans should just not be usable by yourself.

[C-Boy]

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

Originally posted by C Boy:

I still dont see why it needs to count as a revive. If it picked you up without taking away 1 of your 2 health states it would be fine and still balanced.


Yeah and if you dont wanna find keys just dont play the game 4head...

It counts as a revive because it is a revive, an instant revive. It saves time and can be used to save yourself in the right situations.

Thats what im saying tho, its a senzu bean. It should be special. It should be a free pick me up for any survivor without the penalty of losing a health state.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by C Boy:

Originally posted by HushedDragon:

It counts as a revive because it is a revive, an instant revive. It saves time and can be used to save yourself in the right situations.

Thats what im saying tho, its a senzu bean. It should be special. It should be a free pick me up for any survivor without the penalty of losing a health state.

No, it shouldn't. It would be useless as such. The raider is still on your rear. You're just going to end up feeding him two kills instead of one.

[Ao Bai Gaming]

Bamco could at least make the beans drop from your inventory when the Raider finishes you off instead of having them stay in your pocket so your friends could use them on you. They can loot literally every other piece of gear off your corpse, why can't they find the Senzu beans in your pocket and feed them to you?

[C-Boy]

Originally posted by Dri:

Originally posted by C Boy:

Thats what im saying tho, its a senzu bean. It should be special. It should be a free pick me up for any survivor without the penalty of losing a health state.

No, it shouldn't. It would be useless as such. The raider is still on your rear. You're just going to end up feeding him two kills instead of one.

So what? Thats why you use it situationally like people have been saying. The point of this is so survivors ARENT tunneled out of the game. Senzu beans are not easy to come by so its a good reward for survivors and provides benefit to the raider if you arent skilled in its use.