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Simurai Oct 17, 2023 @ 12:46pm
When is this game going to get shut down?
Will I get my money back?
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Karam Oct 17, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
No you won't get your money back if the game gets shut down
Rascal Oct 17, 2023 @ 1:47pm 
Lol 🤣
Donfeur2 Oct 17, 2023 @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by Simshu:
Will I get my money back?
when the game gets shut down its bye bye money and time and effort because it wont be playable ever again unless they add a offline mode which i seriously dont think they will
x0Z3ro0x Oct 17, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by 👊😎 Kyle 😎👊:
Originally posted by Simshu:
Will I get my money back?
when the game gets shut down its bye bye money and time and effort because it wont be playable ever again unless they add a offline mode which i seriously dont think they will

Halo CE, and Age of Empires disagree with that statement. Both shutdown their servers only for gamers to start hosting their own servers on gamespy. It all just depends on how big the fanbase is.
Donfeur2 Oct 17, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:
Originally posted by 👊😎 Kyle 😎👊:
when the game gets shut down its bye bye money and time and effort because it wont be playable ever again unless they add a offline mode which i seriously dont think they will

Halo CE, and Age of Empires disagree with that statement. Both shutdown their servers only for gamers to start hosting their own servers on gamespy. It all just depends on how big the fanbase is.
yeah? what happens if they shutdown nebula which they will have to if *breeze gets shutdown nebula is also required or did you forget that?
x0Z3ro0x Oct 17, 2023 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by 👊😎 Kyle 😎👊:
Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:

Halo CE, and Age of Empires disagree with that statement. Both shutdown their servers only for gamers to start hosting their own servers on gamespy. It all just depends on how big the fanbase is.
yeah? what happens if they shutdown nebula which they will have to if *breeze gets shutdown nebula is also required or did you forget that?

Gee idk, maybe the same way modders made it possible to host your own games. Just a thought. Before those games were ever on steam or "remastered" for that matter you played them via a CD. The only way to play with others was by using the official servers. When they shut their servers down everyone was screwed. So the game was reverse engineered and the code was changed to allow gamespy servers to be used instead of the official ones.

Why be a smart mouth if you didn't even know what gamespy is or what modders did to make it work?
Last edited by x0Z3ro0x; Oct 17, 2023 @ 5:19pm
CharlesBaa_ Oct 17, 2023 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:
Originally posted by 👊😎 Kyle 😎👊:
yeah? what happens if they shutdown nebula which they will have to if *breeze gets shutdown nebula is also required or did you forget that?

Gee idk, maybe the same way modders made it possible to host your own games. Just a thought. Before those games were ever on steam or "remastered" for that matter you played them via a CD. The only way to play with others was by using the official servers. When they shut their servers down everyone was screwed. So the game was reverse engineered and the code was changed to allow gamespy servers to be used instead of the official ones.

Why be a smart mouth if you didn't even know what gamespy is or what modders did to make it work?

The thing is, AoE and Halo have huge, dedicated fanbases, it's a certainty that somebody in that fanbase is talented and driven enough to be able to reverse engineer that server code. But that's not something that can be relied upon. It's incredibly difficult. it's like being stranded in a scrapyard and told to make a Ferrari.

It's a lot easier if OVK/Starbreeze have a real end-of-life plan where they release a patch to make the game playable offline, allow P2P matchmaking, or release source code. As it is right now, the game is on life support. If this isn't changed, someday in the future, the suits will pull the plug, murder the game and it will never be playable again. This is what happens far, far, FAR more often to so many more games than the few examples you listed which luckily escaped death.

It's not a solution, it's a miracle.
Last edited by CharlesBaa_; Oct 17, 2023 @ 5:32pm
x0Z3ro0x Oct 17, 2023 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by CharlesBaa_:
The thing is, AoE and Halo have huge, dedicated fanbases, it's a certainty that somebody in that fanbase is talented and driven enough to be able to reverse engineer that server code.

Originally posted by x0Z3ro0x:
It all just depends on how big the fanbase is.
Biscuits Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:10pm 
People already have a custom server to get passed nebula and stuff
MrBananaGrabber Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:13pm 
The only way to get your money back now is to get a job at Starbreeze then hope you get severance pay when they fire the few remaining members of staff in a few weeks/months.
Ailes Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:26pm 
It's a little amusing how some of you seem to care so much for an offline mode afterwards yet I bet if they shut down their servers everyone will just abandon PD3 completely and go back to PD2 or PD:TH finally. Or some other coop shooter I guess, if I were more into spelunking I'd probably be playing Deep Rock Galactic way more.

I mean that's been the general narrative here the whole time, hasn't it been? Go play PD2 or PD:TH, f*ck PD3? If you truly want to play PD3 for a couple more days or weeks all alone or with bots after a shutdown then good luck. But that's not gonna change anything drastically for anybody at this point. As if you were gonna sink a few more 100 or 1000 hours into PD3 then. I thought you're all hating the game. What is it now, huh? Make up your mind...

And no, of course you won't be getting your money back. Don't be silly. They don't have to pay you anything back. Why would they? They have expenses to pay for this whole time. You genuinely want to see them get ruined and f*cked completely over some online game, live under a bridge just because you are so hardcore into getting your measly 40-90 bucks back? You made the choice to toss that money out the second you preordered or regularily bought the game. Your time for refunds is over. Take your losses and move on, that's the most sensible thing to do. And possibly - hopefully - learn from this for the future.

Again: Don't be silly. This would neither be the first nor the last "online only" game to shut down. Any recompensation you >might< be getting after PD3 were to shut down would only be a friendly gesture from OVK/Starbreeze/Deep Silver. But you certainly aren't entitled to that. If you think otherwise you're quite the entitled PC masterrace gamer. You might be trolling or baiting with this. But I believe there are people who actually believe that they could or should get all they "invested" into such an online game back when/if it shuts down. But that's just not how this works. Don't like it? Then simply don't play "online only" or "live service online" games. Vote with your wallets - the first time around, not many weeks or months later.
Last edited by Ailes; Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:42pm
MrBananaGrabber Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:47pm 
The funny thing is that we won't know when the game is shut down, because the servers are usually down anyway.
CharlesBaa_ Oct 17, 2023 @ 7:42pm 
Originally posted by Ailes:
I mean that's been the general narrative here the whole time, hasn't it been? Go play PD2 or PD:TH, f*ck PD3? If you truly want to play PD3 for a couple more days or weeks all alone or with bots after a shutdown then good luck. But that's not gonna change anything drastically for anybody at this point. As if you were gonna sink a few more 100 or 1000 hours into PD3 then. I thought you're all hating the game. What is it now, huh? Make up your mind...

I've never said f*ck PD3 or that I hated the game. In fact I've consistently saying that I love Payday 3, it's a lot of fun to play and wish the progression and systems surrounding the game and gameplay were better. I think that's been the heart of the issue for many people.

Originally posted by Ailes:
Again: Don't be silly. This would neither be the first nor the last "online only" game to shut down. Any recompensation you >might< be getting after PD3 were to shut down would only be a friendly gesture from OVK/Starbreeze/Deep Silver. But you certainly aren't entitled to that. If you think otherwise you're quite the entitled PC masterrace gamer. You might be trolling or baiting with this. But I believe there are people who actually believe that they could or should get all they "invested" into such an online game back when/if it shuts down. But that's just not how this works. Don't like it? Then simply don't play "online only" or "live service online" games. Vote with your wallets - the first time around, not many weeks or months later.

Under Australian Consumer Law, yeah, I am entitled to a refund if a product I purchase is not fit for reasonable purpose i.e., I can not play a game I purchased with the reasonable expectation of being able to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ play it, so yeah. Just because your Consumer Rights wherever *you* live are completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ doesn't make the rest of us entitled. It's our rights, lmao.

And the "games as a service" digital license is a scam too. Game companies for years have been getting away with treating digital license for games as if they're just a the same as any other product except they don't have to follow the rules of normal products. Previously, a physical copy you bought would be a product and be covered by consumer law. They act like digital copies are services that they can revoke access at any time and it's just a cancellation of the service.

Can you imagine if they acted this way about physical products you purchase? It'd be like if they came to your house and snapped the disc you paid for infront of you so that you can never play it again. The Australian courts are the whole reason Steam even *implemented* a refund policy in the first place because they were facing a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Australian consumers and were found to be subject to Australian Consumer Laws because they were conducting business in Australia by virtue of them selling to Australian consumers.
Last edited by CharlesBaa_; Oct 17, 2023 @ 7:45pm
Virauge Oct 17, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by MrBananaGrabber:
The funny thing is that we won't know when the game is shut down, because the servers are usually down anyway.
I haven't played in about 2 weeks, are there still server issues?
candles Oct 17, 2023 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Virauge:
Originally posted by MrBananaGrabber:
The funny thing is that we won't know when the game is shut down, because the servers are usually down anyway.
I haven't played in about 2 weeks, are there still server issues?
no
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