Starbreeze's stock price...

[Roland]

...says more than reviews ever will.
Even the people that funded Payday 3 are like "wtf is this trash !?"

It always tickles me when the vocal minority is the lovers not the haters.

[Cryptic]

@roland you have 6+ threads in the top 25 threads on the pd3 forum.

if you hate it THAT much, go away.

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by Donkey Breath:

Originally posted by Underdrill:

Dude has been trolling for the past day or so, best to not engage them. They aren't the first PAYDAY troll and they definitely won't be the last.

oh I know I'm following him around telling him to eat ♥♥♥♥ and making sure people know he's a troll, can't let any of the new posters here think he's indicative of the community

so far, most randoms i've played with have been nothing but pleasant and helpful. had one guy being kind of rude, but the community for the most part is cool. don't let roland and other trolls fool you if you're a new player or potential buyer.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by Donkey Breath:

oh I know I'm following him around telling him to eat ♥♥♥♥ and making sure people know he's a troll, can't let any of the new posters here think he's indicative of the community

so far, most randoms i've played with have been nothing but pleasant and helpful. had one guy being kind of rude, but the community for the most part is cool. don't let roland and other trolls fool you if you're a new player or potential buyer.

Bruh even their own mods are dunking on the game saying it's a disappointment.

[McFish]

Neat

[McFish]

Also not saying he is BS'ing or not cause I don't know the guy but his little ♥♥♥♥ measuring moment about modding reeked of "I got a surface level understanding and use that to over inflate my knowledge"

[Snivy]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Donkey Breath:

vocal minority are still the haters as the people that like the game are playing it and not trolling the forums

The stock price disagrees with you.
The majority feel Starbreeze is not worth it; literally.

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/STAR-B:STO

Stock prices disagree with a lot of things. But in the end it's made up by rich fancypants, that feel like dropping their stocks cause whatever their gut tells them. Stocks drop out of fear, not because stock holders know any better.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Kyrandos:

Listening to Roland talk about his cringy modding past and claim it's more difficult than current game dev was pretty kino. That said, I'm on his side, despite his laughably overstating his credentials.

I'm not tryna fight my allies, but altering an existing game using literally only it's hex is substantially harder than using an existing engine to create a game.

I could add that I've always sucked at learning languages, but that's a me thing, whereas most would agree editing anything using only Hex is one of the hardest things you can do, especially when no one understands the structure.

I will concede I was mildly generous in my saying I helped make the tools for Heart and Soul, as my "helping" was mostly just me going to SCV or Alpha and going "these bytes aren't making sense wtf" and they'd say "try X" or "no you're mis-reading, it's Y" while I was working on Perfect Platinum. It was a "i'm helping by saving them time so they can do the things i can't" type of helping lol

But I've super-digressed. Hex is hard when you're goin in almost entirely blind.

[May]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by KiNG:

Funnier story is you spouting how easy game dev is when you are completely clueless.
The PS5 "never had a beta test" sure bro. Sure.

ooo ooo ooo, is this where we whip out our ♥♥♥♥♥ and measuring tape?
Because I was making stages in Unreal Engine 21 years ago; around that same time I started ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with A4, A5, and A6 Gamestudios.
As a teenager.
In the days before Youtube existed, let alone tutorials.
I do know exactly how hard it is to make a game.

Have you ever helped decompile someone else's game so you can mod it?
Because frankly that's way harder than making a game from scratch. I bring this up frequently when discussing the hacks I made for Pokemon Platinum, Heart, and Soul.
And in fact while making Perfect Platinum I did what Gamefreak could not by putting 492 Pokemon in logical and mostly lore friendly locations without extensively modifying existing environments.

And I did all of that while making the game harder in a balanced way.
And mind you while working on Platinum we did not have the tools we later had for my Perfect Heart and Perfect Soul releases, so all of my Platinum work, including the 40 hours I spent just on the Arceus event was almost entirely me staring at and reading Hexcidecimal. Even back then there was only a handful of people on the planet that could decipher a Pokemon ROMs RAW hex code.

tl;dr: I've done things most game designers would have nightmares over.

>Have you ever helped decompile someone else's game so you can mod it? Because frankly that's way harder than making a game from scratch.
You post everywhere here dickriding the hate train of this game, and beyond that, this statement is laughably false. No, making an entire game from scratch is "harder". They are both difficult. You waste your days posting in these discussion threads constantly, I and many have reported you and I cannot wait to see you banned from these forums. Not because "opinion wrong reported!!", but because you frequently spam low quality posts that contribute absolutely nothing to any conversation except furthering your own odd agenda.

[Roland]

Originally posted by McFish:

Also not saying he is BS'ing or not cause I don't know the guy but his little ♥♥♥♥ measuring moment about modding reeked of "I got a surface level understanding and use that to over inflate my knowledge"

I get that, the problem is it's the only thing i can prove without doxxing myself.
You left out the part where I did ♥♥♥♥ with A4/A5/A6 Gamestudio for many years; but that's fine because I can't prove that (though the fact that I even know what it is should say SOMETHING I'd hope. it wasn't a popular engine... lol)

Originally posted by Snivy:

Originally posted by Roland:

The stock price disagrees with you.
The majority feel Starbreeze is not worth it; literally.

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/STAR-B:STO

Stock prices disagree with a lot of things. But in the end it's made up by rich fancypants, that feel like dropping their stocks cause whatever their gut tells them. Stocks drop out of fear, not because stock holders know any better.

You are 100% correct; the thing is they are looking at Payday 3 with fear...

[[Wahr] Eogard]

I finished all the heists in normal solo stealth and the heists are good honestly. The issue is the Loud part, it feels bad to play, the gunplay is mediocre imo so stealth all the way until they fix it in 3 years

[Roland]

Originally posted by plane:

Originally posted by Roland:

ooo ooo ooo, is this where we whip out our ♥♥♥♥♥ and measuring tape?
Because I was making stages in Unreal Engine 21 years ago; around that same time I started ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with A4, A5, and A6 Gamestudios.
As a teenager.
In the days before Youtube existed, let alone tutorials.
I do know exactly how hard it is to make a game.

Have you ever helped decompile someone else's game so you can mod it?
Because frankly that's way harder than making a game from scratch. I bring this up frequently when discussing the hacks I made for Pokemon Platinum, Heart, and Soul.
And in fact while making Perfect Platinum I did what Gamefreak could not by putting 492 Pokemon in logical and mostly lore friendly locations without extensively modifying existing environments.

And I did all of that while making the game harder in a balanced way.
And mind you while working on Platinum we did not have the tools we later had for my Perfect Heart and Perfect Soul releases, so all of my Platinum work, including the 40 hours I spent just on the Arceus event was almost entirely me staring at and reading Hexcidecimal. Even back then there was only a handful of people on the planet that could decipher a Pokemon ROMs RAW hex code.

tl;dr: I've done things most game designers would have nightmares over.

>Have you ever helped decompile someone else's game so you can mod it? Because frankly that's way harder than making a game from scratch.
You post everywhere here dickriding the hate train of this game, and beyond that, this statement is laughably false. No, making an entire game from scratch is "harder". They are both difficult. You waste your days posting in these discussion threads constantly, I and many have reported you and I cannot wait to see you banned from these forums. Not because "opinion wrong reported!!", but because you frequently spam low quality posts that contribute absolutely nothing to any conversation except furthering your own odd agenda.

I've not picked fights with anyone, I've not called names, and I've barely even been cheeky. And all of my topics, whether you like them or not, are relevant to the state of the game and are talking points on such.
So i'd be really curious to see what grounds I'd get banned on.
You on the other hand might get banned for false reports; which btw are more severe than simply getting banned for telling someone to ♥♥♥♥ off or "spam posting" lol

[Kyrandos]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Kyrandos:

Listening to Roland talk about his cringy modding past and claim it's more difficult than current game dev was pretty kino. That said, I'm on his side, despite his laughably overstating his credentials.

I'm not tryna fight my allies, but altering an existing game using literally only it's hex is substantially harder than using an existing engine to create a game.

I could add that I've always sucked at learning languages, but that's a me thing, whereas most would agree editing anything using only Hex is one of the hardest things you can do, especially when no one understands the structure.

I will concede I was mildly generous in my saying I helped make the tools for Heart and Soul, as my "helping" was mostly just me going to SCV or Alpha and going "these bytes aren't making sense wtf" and they'd say "try X" or "no you're mis-reading, it's Y" while I was working on Perfect Platinum. It was a "i'm helping by saving them time so they can do the things i can't" type of helping lol

But I've super-digressed. Hex is hard when you're goin in almost entirely blind.

You're pretending you can build cars because you know how to machine metal. Stop trying to convince me. It isn't working.

Focus on trolling them, it's much more fun.

[Pl3xus]

Originally posted by Roland:

I've not picked fights with anyone, I've not called names, and I've barely even been cheeky. And all of my topics, whether you like them or not, are relevant to the state of the game and are talking points on such.
So i'd be really curious to see what grounds I'd get banned on.
You on the other hand might get banned for false reports; which btw are more severe than simply getting banned for telling someone to ♥♥♥♥ off or "spam posting" lol

pd3 is so fun that people actually stays in steam forum just to reward you with jester emoji than playing the game itself bellisimo best content so far

[Larzech]

Look at all these PD3 defenders flocking on Roland who can back up his words with source.

Let's return to this topic in few days and read the stock price.

[Styx]

This is the first time I've seen someone judge a game by the stockvalue of its publisher