Payday 3 LAG (No, not FPS)

[Leonheart]

I really have only seen people complain about matchmaking being not great.
Am i the only one suffering from absurd levels of Lag during a game?
Anywhere between 150ms lag spikes and 500 ms? Rubber banding even when the ping icon isn't showing at all?
Worst of all, this happens in solo lobbies or matching with 3 other players cross platform. Yet I don't exaggerate when i tell you, the lag is WORSE playing SOLO. How is that possible?

Is it just me?

(Also where is the voice chat? This isnt the type of game that will retain a playerbase without voice chat!)

[Mark]

The game is online only even when playing alone, its a big reason lag is happening.

[CentreMetre]

Originally posted by Mark:

The game is online only even when playing alone, its a big reason lag is happening.

Yes ive had things like bags teleport bag to where they were before they fell, even when solo. Always online is utter wank

[Lar Dass]

i still find it funny people think lag= fps drops when lag has always meant internet ping spikes

[Mentally Unstable]

The pertinent question is : Where are OVK servers located in?

I have a nagging suspicion that they only have servers in the US and certain EU countries but none anywhere else. As such, the latency very much depends on how "close" (in terms of internet gateway traffic routing) we are to their servers. They want us to only play on their dedicated servers, fine. But they should at least have servers in every country and not try and squeeze the rest of the world into the US.

I don't think OVK will say anything about it because they are afraid that telling the truth would turn away international players.

[Leonheart]

I'll be honest as a UK player, I wouldve thought the closest server would still be relatively closeby. What bothers me on that argument is preorders would be tangible info on how much the serverload would be required to take. So theres no real excuse for the lag to be this bad?
Then i check twitch streams and to my frustrations, the people playing there have ZERO issues it seems. So wtf is going on?
With everyone referencing Frame drops as "LAG" you dont get a good answer on latency/ping, like lag isn't graphical, never has been.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Lar Dass:

i still find it funny people think lag= fps drops when lag has always meant internet ping spikes

As a self taught PC repair technician of 22 years, i sense sarcasm in the use of the word funny there
How bout Hitching vs Stuttering vs Lag vs FPS drops?
(thank god I rarely have to differentiate 3 of these when trying to help a friend/client troubleshoot remotely, though it can be hard to tell sometimes if someone needs faster storage or to turn settings down)

[Ghxstt]

"(Also where is the voice chat? This isnt the type of game that will retain a playerbase without voice chat!)" Payday games from my knowledge never once had Voice chat an any of there games they only had chat..

[Roland]

Originally posted by <+>ForbiddenGhostt<+>:

"(Also where is the voice chat? This isnt the type of game that will retain a playerbase without voice chat!)" Payday games from my knowledge never once had Voice chat an any of there games they only had chat..

LMFAO
Oh boy....
Payday 2 always had voice chat fam.
I play with a controller so it is my preferred communication method. (also stopping to type to communicate was always stupid)
edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667562787

literal video proof of voice chat in game.

[steelfox0329]

I randomly started having the ping issue last night! Things like me running past a camera and into a building. Only for the camera to catch me because I was going to rubberband back outside in front of it! If I wasn't filled with so much rage....it would have been slightly comical. Never had the issue before. Happened both solo and online before the game would crash completely.

Even stranger, after the second crash a grey box popped up and asked me what I was doing before the crash. The unreal engine symbol was in the corner of the box ( very tiny and almost missed it ). A space in the bottom of the box was full of error info that started with the word Epic. I should have saved a screenshot. Still, no luck after staying up till 5 a.m. troubleshooting everything I could. Lowest graphics setting, throttled FPS to 120, internet quality checked, removed almost every device connected to my internet, and switched internet providers ( I have 2 as a backup for my wife's job. Both Century Link and another I won't name for security ), closed down auto-updates, closed all background processes I could, and checked for updates for both the steam program as well as Payday 3 itself.

I've only ever had a ping issue with RUST. At least in that case a patch was release very quickly and it was actually mentioned in online forums such as this. This one was started a month ago. I've not run into posts about this problem anywhere recent. Other than deleting the game, what is the next move? I'm going to make a new thread about this as well.

[Tuna Sandwich]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by <+>ForbiddenGhostt<+>:

"(Also where is the voice chat? This isnt the type of game that will retain a playerbase without voice chat!)" Payday games from my knowledge never once had Voice chat an any of there games they only had chat..

LMFAO
Oh boy....
Payday 2 always had voice chat fam.
I play with a controller so it is my preferred communication method. (also stopping to type to communicate was always stupid)
edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667562787

literal video proof of voice chat in game.

This does not prove that there is voice chat in the game, as there is no visual in-game indicator for voice chat.

[Roland]

Originally posted by SalmonBurger:

Originally posted by Roland:

LMFAO
Oh boy....
Payday 2 always had voice chat fam.
I play with a controller so it is my preferred communication method. (also stopping to type to communicate was always stupid)
edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667562787

literal video proof of voice chat in game.

This does not prove that there is voice chat in the game, as there is no visual in-game indicator for voice chat.

YES there ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is!
Look at the colored dots for my Teammates; they turn into speech bubbles with an exclamation point every time one of them talks.

This does remind me I should hit up Azorian and see how they're doing; it's been a minute.

Anyway, it was a pleasure proving you wrong again.

[Tuna Sandwich]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by SalmonBurger:

This does not prove that there is voice chat in the game, as there is no visual in-game indicator for voice chat.

YES there ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is!
Look at the colored dots for my Teammates; they turn into speech bubbles with an exclamation point every time one of them talks.

This does remind me I should hit up Azorian and see how they're doing; it's been a minute.

Anyway, it was a pleasure proving you wrong again.

That is not part of the vanilla game but a mod that creates this visual indicator for you. Therefore this in no way proves that there really is voice chat in the game - since the dialog we are hearing could be from an other application or even edited into the footage.

This is why this can not be used as proof for voice chat actually being in the game.

[Roland]

Originally posted by SalmonBurger:

Originally posted by Roland:

YES there ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is!
Look at the colored dots for my Teammates; they turn into speech bubbles with an exclamation point every time one of them talks.

This does remind me I should hit up Azorian and see how they're doing; it's been a minute.

Anyway, it was a pleasure proving you wrong again.

That is not part of the vanilla game but a mod that creates this visual indicator for you. Therefore this in no way proves that there really is voice chat in the game - since the dialog we are hearing could be from an other application or even edited into the footage.

This is why this can not be used as proof for voice chat actually being in the game.

That's WolfHUD.
WolfHUD does not pull from external apps.
Ask literally any Payday 2 veteran from post-HoxHUD era and they will tell you that's just WolfHUD.

You're reaching really hard right now man.
I'm half tempted to spend 2 hours reinstalling Payday 2 just to take a screenshot of the audio menu to shut your stupid arguments down permanently. Payday 2 has voice chat. Period.
Rather than waste my time, here's a post from TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN where players were discussing voice chat.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/537402115076971109/

And even Payday 1 had voice chat:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/632714-payday-the-heist/answers/298054-how-do-i-use-voice-chat

And one last one before I go:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/25/payday-2-waiting-for-nintendo-permission-to-use-voice-chat-app-for-switch
Even the Switch version was SUPPOSED to get it until they abandoned the Switch version.

[Tuna Sandwich]

Originally posted by Roland:

Rather than waste my time, here's a post from TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN where players were discussing voice chat.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/537402115076971109/

That is interesting but can you prove that these people aren't just simply roleplaying? It is a common occurence, especially in internet forums, to roleplay certain scenarios that do not actually depict the truth.

Originally posted by Roland:

And even Payday 1 had voice chat:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/632714-payday-the-heist/answers/298054-how-do-i-use-voice-chat

Just because Payday 1 had voice chat, that doesn't mean Payday 2 has to have voice chat.

Originally posted by Roland:

And one last one before I go:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/25/payday-2-waiting-for-nintendo-permission-to-use-voice-chat-app-for-switch
Even the Switch version was SUPPOSED to get it until they abandoned the Switch version.

This one almost convinces me, but I am not too sure about this one, since it is an article. It might just be badly researched, IGN is especially known for that.

[Roland]

Originally posted by SalmonBurger:

Originally posted by Roland:

Rather than waste my time, here's a post from TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN where players were discussing voice chat.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/537402115076971109/

That is interesting but can you prove that these people aren't just simply roleplaying? It is a common occurence, especially in internet forums, to roleplay certain scenarios that do not actually depict the truth.

Originally posted by Roland:

And even Payday 1 had voice chat:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/632714-payday-the-heist/answers/298054-how-do-i-use-voice-chat

Just because Payday 1 had voice chat, that doesn't mean Payday 2 has to have voice chat.

Originally posted by Roland:

And one last one before I go:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/25/payday-2-waiting-for-nintendo-permission-to-use-voice-chat-app-for-switch
Even the Switch version was SUPPOSED to get it until they abandoned the Switch version.

This one almost convinces me, but I am not too sure about this one, since it is an article. It might just be badly researched, IGN is especially known for that.

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