Will Starbreeze still be around in 6 months?

[John Cena]

50% drop in their stock in 1 month. they just released a new game they've been working on for years.

is this a bad omen?

did i waste $70 on this game!?

[Sunday Driver]

Absolutely brutal times. I'd be surprised if they're still worth anything this time next year. Investors will be in full panic mode. Money will be being pulled out ASAP as no one sane wants to be left holding the bag on this one when it finally crashes and burns for a second time.

If they go down then the servers can potentially go down and then this game is unplayable, even for single player solo.

[MartyrSaint]

I've seen rougher launches turn into bigger successes. I'm cautiously optimistic that Starbreeze can get it's ♥♥♥♥ together. They have a habit of bouncing back from eminent demise.

If not? Ah well. If they're going to go under they better hand the reins over to somebody else though before they bail.

[Amadeus大猫]

"Working on for years"? Nah, this game looks like is half cooked. I mean the lack of weapon content, map content, skill content are what defines this game a huge step-back from payday 2.

[MartyrSaint]

Originally posted by Amadeus :3:

"Working on for years"? Nah, this game looks like is half cooked. I mean the lack of weapon content, map content, skill content are what defines this game a huge step-back from payday 2.

Well, it was scrapped and restarted like twice-ish in order to get it onto a new engine so it isn't exactly as if they were just working on the "same" game for a decade. There was absolutely some wicked crunch time, especially for console ports.

Must suck being a dev, work on a game for however long and have all that work wiped because the big man said "Change it.".

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by Amadeus :3:

"Working on for years"? Nah, this game looks like is half cooked. I mean the lack of weapon content, map content, skill content are what defines this game a huge step-back from payday 2.

Watch them pull a BF5 when the first year ends and they finally add some of the basic features missing.

[The Black Baron]

They already bankrupted two companies before. Their "Grin" company and again with bad buissnes decisions afterwards. Their track record with finances is awful, their buissnes decisions have caused one of their "hyped" games to be removed from steam because it was so bad (Ovk walking dead). Also the other barebones heist game Raid WW2 is still around but it's like a demo. Not a lot of content at all.

[nullpo]

Most likely still there. They already got the money from purchases and xbox gamepass royalty. But most likely the game will get abandoned kinda like how EA treat anthem or OVK treat raid ww2 and OVK walking dead

[John Cena]

Originally posted by Endy:

They'll be back in that Swedish version of bankruptcy. They needed Payday 3 to be a success and it's one of the most dismal failures I've seen at launch in two decades of gaming.

yeah its pretty bad. i uninstalled after 1.5 weeks because i still had matchmaking issues. this game is probably the worst launch of 2023 because of the mm issues.

[animal_PLANET]

I really hope not. I have been saying for years they need to sell the PD IP to a more competent studio. One that can actually make a new game. Not just a rehash same old things. With a ton of content lacking from the predecessor which is missing all together or not improved upon.

[Maya Mizuki]

Originally posted by Sunday Driver:

Absolutely brutal times. I'd be surprised if they're still worth anything this time next year. Investors will be in full panic mode. Money will be being pulled out ASAP as no one sane wants to be left holding the bag on this one when it finally crashes and burns for a second time.

If they go down then the servers can potentially go down and then this game is unplayable, even for single player solo.

if this is the case, since i bought the expensive edition with season passes,
Imagine they don't release the DLC's anymore, would i have grounds on a refund via steam?

i really wanna see PD3 become a god tier game... but at the moment it just reminds me of cyberpunk, so i guess i'll wait i can't refund it anymore now anyway

[Connys Bygg AB]

Yes they will still be around. Just look at their financial report. they a around 200Million SEK in liquid funds, and they got around 250 million SEK in revenue this quarter for the release of PD3. Currently they have around 200 million SEK burnrate each year.

With the current information and progress Starbreeze will be around for 2-3 years minimum worst case scenario. Best case they will expand be profitable YoY.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I think most people here do want Payday 3 to be a good game, but the developers also need to want it to be good for it to get there...

Currently, there's way too many bad decisions that it's up there in the list of bad games and the game needs some fundamental reworks starting with letting players host their own lobbies and not being forced to play on Starbreeze's servers... And getting rid of the nebula account requirements.

[Connys Bygg AB]

Originally posted by nullpo:

Most likely still there. They already got the money from purchases and xbox gamepass royalty. But most likely the game will get abandoned kinda like how EA treat anthem or OVK treat raid ww2 and OVK walking dead

They have literally said and got the money from the publisher that they will support the game for 2 years with planned content.

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by Connys Bygg AB:

They have literally said and got the money from the publisher that they will support the game for 2 years with planned content.

I doubt that they have gotten the entire sum from the publisher, at least not for the "planned content". Usually the funds from such publishing agreements are given out when certain milestones are reached. Anyway, "planned" is in no way an ironclad agreement. The publisher could still very well scrap them. Hell, their walking dead game was killed shortly after release and no refunds were given to those who bought the more expensive versions that came with a "season pass" of sorts.

[Coldflame]

even in a worst case refund scenario pd3 has been profitable enough that sbz won't go under for a couple years at the absolute minimum

there's no chance they ditch pd3 since it's their only valuable IP, and to their credit, they do have a pattern of fixing their mistakes (ww2 still gets updates, OKTWD they literally lost the rights)