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Freezing PC Completely
After a complete random amount of time playing instead of crashing my pc freezes and I cant control anything anymore. I still hear audio and my brothers on Discord but to get it unfroze I have to click the restart button on my tower, anyone know why? I play on Gamepass and windows 11.
Last edited by Haitians Ate My Cat; Oct 3, 2023 @ 11:49am
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xCløud Oct 3, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Are you on windows 11? My PC has been doing this recently in Valorant mostly, might be a windows update/nvidia driver problem?
Roland Oct 3, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by xCløud:
Are you on windows 11? My PC has been doing this recently in Valorant mostly, might be a windows update/nvidia driver problem?
It's not.

game trash kkkkkkkkkkkkkk ...I don't have problems with crashes or anything, this game for me running smoothly, but this is the only game where my temperature goes through the roof without stopping

Keep an eye on the temperature, it has PS3 graphics but everything goes up.
xCløud Oct 3, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by xCløud:
Are you on windows 11? My PC has been doing this recently in Valorant mostly, might be a windows update/nvidia driver problem?
It's not.
Crazy, 2 people with the same issue in 2 different games and you are completely certain on what the problem isn't.
Roland Oct 3, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by xCløud:
Originally posted by Roland:
It's not.
Crazy, 2 people with the same issue in 2 different games and you are completely certain on what the problem isn't.
Because I'm on WIndows 11 Pro and have the newest Nvidia Driver.

I would run health checks on storage for starters, maybe memtest RAM too, though RAM issues would BSOD more often than freeze so I doubt RAM. A clean GPU driver install wouldn't hurt but I'd disable any auto overclocking Nvidia might be doing and test that before the hassle of DDU and reinstall.

And definitely close Discord and test that before absolutely anything; it would not be the first time it caused a game to freeze either because of it's rich presence nonsense or it's overlay. Steam has voice chat if you need it for the game.

Also you are the only that said anything about "2 different games", so no it is not "2 different people in 2 different games" it's you seeing an issue that sounds like yours and attaching yourself to it.

I don't mind helping both of you troubleshoot it, but you can lose the snark, and you both are going to have to give up a lot more info about your setups. OS is a good start, but also what kind of thermals are you seeing?
Have you tried re-seating cables and RAM and what have you?
Does anything show up in Event Viewer at the time of the freeze?

Freezing can be a bit more annoying to troubleshoot than a BSOD if there's nothing in the Event Viewer...
xCløud Oct 3, 2023 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
Also you are the only that said anything about "2 different games", so no it is not "2 different people in 2 different games" it's you seeing an issue that sounds like yours and attaching yourself to it.

OP said: After a complete random amount of time playing instead of crashing my pc freezes and I cant control anything anymore.

I said i'm having the same issue, mostly in Valorant. 2 different people, 2 different games, same issue.

My PC is fine and I've only been having issues since the last time my windows updated, I've already run DDU and reinstalled the latest NVIDIA drivers. Didn't freeze up while on old 4xx drivers and didn't freeze before manually installing the newest drivers.

You don't have the issue, that's great for you. I appreciate that you're attempting to somewhat offer basic advice but the only person being snarky with a high and mighty attitude here is you.
Roland Oct 3, 2023 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by xCløud:
the only person being snarky with a high and mighty attitude here is you.
:cryptothink:
Originally posted by xCløud:
Crazy,
Then wtf do you call :steamthis: ??

Op never even said they were on Nvidia, you are latching on hard, and while ignoring the fact that Valorant has that notorious anti-cheat that may or may not be your issue.

Originally posted by xCløud:
Valorant. 2 different people, 2 different games, same issue.
This is stupid logic, flat out.
They are completely different games but for some reason you assume you must be having the same issue as they are. The only way that comes even close to making any sense is if both of you have this issue in every Unreal Engine 4 game.
Just listen to yourself:
"That person is freezing in Payday 3, just like i'm freezing in Valorant. This is the exact same issue and there is no differences at all" :steamfacepalm:
xCløud Oct 3, 2023 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by xCløud:
the only person being snarky with a high and mighty attitude here is you.
:cryptothink:
Originally posted by xCløud:
Crazy,
Then wtf do you call :steamthis: ??

Op never even said they were on Nvidia, you are latching on hard, and while ignoring the fact that Valorant has that notorious anti-cheat that may or may not be your issue.

Originally posted by xCløud:
Valorant. 2 different people, 2 different games, same issue.
This is stupid logic, flat out.
They are completely different games but for some reason you assume you must be having the same issue as they are. The only way that comes even close to making any sense is if both of you have this issue in every Unreal Engine 4 game.
Just listen to yourself:
"That person is freezing in Payday 3, just like i'm freezing in Valorant. This is the exact same issue and there is no differences at all" :steamfacepalm:
Lost cause.
Roland Oct 3, 2023 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by xCløud:
Originally posted by Roland:
:cryptothink:

Then wtf do you call :steamthis: ??

Op never even said they were on Nvidia, you are latching on hard, and while ignoring the fact that Valorant has that notorious anti-cheat that may or may not be your issue.


This is stupid logic, flat out.
They are completely different games but for some reason you assume you must be having the same issue as they are. The only way that comes even close to making any sense is if both of you have this issue in every Unreal Engine 4 game.
Just listen to yourself:
"That person is freezing in Payday 3, just like i'm freezing in Valorant. This is the exact same issue and there is no differences at all" :steamfacepalm:
Lost cause.
I've been building, troubleshooting, and fixing Windows PCs for 22 years kid; both independently and working for a small repair shop while I was in college. You have no idea how out of your depth you are when you assume a Valorant freeze and a Payday 3 freeze on 2 completely different machines must be the same issue.
Suit yourself with your arrogance though, I'll help OP if they want it.
xCløud Oct 3, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by xCløud:
Lost cause.
I've been building, troubleshooting, and fixing Windows PCs for 22 years kid; both independently and working for a small repair shop while I was in college. You have no idea how out of your depth you are when you assume a Valorant freeze and a Payday 3 freeze on 2 completely different machines must be the same issue.
Suit yourself with your arrogance though, I'll help OP if they want it.
common L for you.
Cotaks Oct 3, 2023 @ 3:59pm 
A screenfreeze while you still have sound means it's GPU related.
Anything connected to that GPU can be the problem, GPU/cable/drivers or monitor.

99% of the time it's just a driver crash, where the driver can't recover itself. Normally if a driver crashes, the screen will freeze or turn black for like 30 seconds and then it would restore itself. But it can't always recover itself so you need to help it by manually resetting your PC.

So, update your driver to an older version or to a newer beta version and try again.
Originally posted by Cotaks:
A screenfreeze while you still have sound means it's GPU related.
Anything connected to that GPU can be the problem, GPU/cable/drivers or monitor.

99% of the time it's just a driver crash, where the driver can't recover itself. Normally if a driver crashes, the screen will freeze or turn black for like 30 seconds and then it would restore itself. But it can't always recover itself so you need to help it by manually resetting your PC.

So, update your driver to an older version or to a newer beta version and try again.
I'll DDU and install a different driver version tomorrow than. I am currently using 537.42. Which version do you recommend me to try ?
Cotaks Oct 3, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by Ataraxia:
Originally posted by Cotaks:
A screenfreeze while you still have sound means it's GPU related.
Anything connected to that GPU can be the problem, GPU/cable/drivers or monitor.

99% of the time it's just a driver crash, where the driver can't recover itself. Normally if a driver crashes, the screen will freeze or turn black for like 30 seconds and then it would restore itself. But it can't always recover itself so you need to help it by manually resetting your PC.

So, update your driver to an older version or to a newer beta version and try again.
I'll DDU and install a different driver version tomorrow than. I am currently using 537.42. Which version do you recommend me to try ?
A newer beta version or the previous driver. I'm amd myself so no clue how nvidia handles it.
Roland Oct 4, 2023 @ 3:50am 
Originally posted by Ataraxia:
Originally posted by Cotaks:
A screenfreeze while you still have sound means it's GPU related.
Anything connected to that GPU can be the problem, GPU/cable/drivers or monitor.

99% of the time it's just a driver crash, where the driver can't recover itself. Normally if a driver crashes, the screen will freeze or turn black for like 30 seconds and then it would restore itself. But it can't always recover itself so you need to help it by manually resetting your PC.

So, update your driver to an older version or to a newer beta version and try again.
I'll DDU and install a different driver version tomorrow than. I am currently using 537.42. Which version do you recommend me to try ?
You should literally just re-install that driver.
It's the newest one and is obviously working or you would see more posts than just yours about this.
What the user on AMD isn't telling you is AMD is notorious for Driver crashes and you often need to rollback drivers with them. ( a year and a half ago I spent 4 months on an old AMD driver just to fix a Cp77 bug)

This is far far less common with Nvidia, and you're far more likely to cause issues with your newest games if you roll back your nvidia drivers. So if you play Cyberpunk, Party Animals, Warhaven, or Witchfire, you are going to potentially break those games by rolling back.
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