Smoke grenades are a joke

[Bryan]

what the hell where the devs thinking? the enemies completely ignore smoke, they aimbot you as if the smoke doesn't even exists, why even give players the option to take a gadget that only hurts your own team?

[Cheggf]

I feel like there has to be something about the smoke grenades that the game doesn't tell you, the other 3 throwables are so well balanced. I made a few threads asking about them before but nobody left any comments, I don't think anyone knows.

I think they might give you a buff if you're inside them since you have graphics on your screen, but I haven't tested it. Maybe it's just visual flair.

[Magos Flibble]

Reduces cop accuracy, gives you a pd2 sicario like buff basically

[Razyel D'Ropa]

Its basically a replacement for dodge. Instead of being Neo, you make enemies less accurate, I think thats a good idea since dodge is ridiculous

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Umm have u not played counter strike?

[Bryan]

Originally posted by Magos Flibble:

Reduces cop accuracy, gives you a pd2 sicario like buff basically

but it makes your and your team accuracy 0 since you cannot even see them, they can still see you and shoot you faily accurate

[Cheggf]

Originally posted by Bryan:

Originally posted by Magos Flibble:

Reduces cop accuracy, gives you a pd2 sicario like buff basically

but it makes your and your team accuracy 0 since you cannot even see them, they can still see you and shoot you faily accurate

If it reduces accuracy by a good amount and reduces it if they shoot through it regardless of if they're standing inside of it it would be very helpful for doing non-combat things like fixing the drill on G&S or moving bags. If it only reduces their accuracy if they're standing inside of it or only by a little bit then it would just be better to use a flash or grenade to lower their accuracy by 100% because they're stunned or dead.

Also I heard someone say they're great for killing bulldozers. Apparently you can just run up right next to them and they miss a lot despite being so close to you.

[Bryan]

Originally posted by Where'sMySupersuit!!:

Umm have u not played counter strike?

i have no idea what you are trying to say, yes i have a thousand hours counterstrike, in cs you use smokes to cover your push, so they cannot shoot you, because its a PVP game it works, but in Payday you are playing against badly programmed, aimbotting AI that completely ignores smoke and just keeps shooting as if the smoke doesn't exist, while it still blocks your vision.

the Smoke in Payday is like a smoke that only effects your own team and not the enemy lmao.

[Antik]

Yeah smokes are a tool for trolls at worst. At best you avoid 1 or 2 hits, maybe. Like the rest of the game, needs a rework.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Bryan:

Originally posted by Magos Flibble:

Reduces cop accuracy, gives you a pd2 sicario like buff basically

but it makes your and your team accuracy 0 since you cannot even see them, they can still see you and shoot you faily accurate

Smoke grenades were never designed to be "Shot through." they are sight inhibitors so you can move. However, in moments of overwhelming numbers. The shooters will generally fire wildly and get lucky sometimes. If you throw it, it's for the point of moving to a different location, so it is working as intended.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by Cheggf:

Originally posted by Bryan:

but it makes your and your team accuracy 0 since you cannot even see them, they can still see you and shoot you faily accurate

If it reduces accuracy by a good amount and reduces it if they shoot through it regardless of if they're standing inside of it it would be very helpful for doing non-combat things like fixing the drill on G&S or moving bags. If it only reduces their accuracy if they're standing inside of it or only by a little bit then it would just be better to use a flash or grenade to lower their accuracy by 100% because they're stunned or dead.

Also I heard someone say they're great for killing bulldozers. Apparently you can just run up right next to them and they miss a lot despite being so close to you.

can confirm a smoke grenade will make a bulldozer miss almost all of his shots point-blank and you can just put your gun against his visor and fire away

[DeathRow]

why kill the cops when you can make them (maybe) miss (some) of their shots on you? great piece of equipment

[Cheggf]

Originally posted by Sofia:

Originally posted by Cheggf:

If it reduces accuracy by a good amount and reduces it if they shoot through it regardless of if they're standing inside of it it would be very helpful for doing non-combat things like fixing the drill on G&S or moving bags. If it only reduces their accuracy if they're standing inside of it or only by a little bit then it would just be better to use a flash or grenade to lower their accuracy by 100% because they're stunned or dead.

Also I heard someone say they're great for killing bulldozers. Apparently you can just run up right next to them and they miss a lot despite being so close to you.

can confirm a smoke grenade will make a bulldozer miss almost all of his shots point-blank and you can just put your gun against his visor and fire away

Can you confirm anything else about them? Like if they work while you're inside of it but not the enemies, or if they work while it's between you and the enemies but neither of you are inside it?

[Gs]

Yea they still shoot u pretty accurately and on top off that now u cant see them, xD

[Sofia]

Originally posted by Cheggf:

Originally posted by Sofia:

can confirm a smoke grenade will make a bulldozer miss almost all of his shots point-blank and you can just put your gun against his visor and fire away

Can you confirm anything else about them? Like if they work while you're inside of it but not the enemies, or if they work while it's between you and the enemies but neither of you are inside it?

I only ever really use them for dozers, the rest of the time I forget I'm even carrying them lmao

they're not very good, but they will absolutely shut a dozer down, so that makes them worth it on its own IMO