PAYDAY 3

PAYDAY 3

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🟨 Sep 27, 2023 @ 12:15pm
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Lead guard is scripted to make you lose
I'm trying to dirty ice on higher difficulty stealth but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible because this stupid ass guard keeps coming inside the jewerly room every time I start making the bags

I'm confused? I didn't even trigger the search so wtf?
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Merk Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:32am 
Originally posted by CybernatonEvolution:
Yeah he triggers a different, more thorough search route at the end of heists. You need to be very fast and keep tracks on him either via friends or motion sensor. Apparently, the latter has a timer and doesn't last long enough.

Even if you track him the whole mission, he can simply walk towards hostages/bodies and you can't kill him. You have to let him cuff someone if he didn't walk into a secure area.

As a side note, I had him walk into the VIP room in Dirty Ice consistently, the manager room and the security room in the basement, which worries me because that could mean he is scripted to track bodies.

Honestly the thing that really bothered me about him is how he caught me in the VIP room while the door was closed (no line of sight) but based on sound since I was running inside to bag stuff fast.

i mean you CAN kill him its just endless pagers go off every minute but if you have some banked up it doesn't matter also motion sensors last basically forever. the tools you get in this game make overkill stealthing a joke. disabling multiple cameras, motion sensors, blowing up radios to distract guards if you get caught, getting caught by the camera room guard and blowing up his radio to distract him turning all cameras off for the rest of the heist. experiment and try things its not hard. you can turn off cameras for free in every mission kill 3 guards 2 if you dont want search mode and mark 2 for free its insanely easy after you get a feel for it.
Last edited by Merk; Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:43am
Otleaz Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:36am 
Lead guard's patrol route is random, but predictable.

For Dirty Ice, you need to move the hostages into the scanner room BEFORE trying to take anything. As soon as you take a bag, his patrol route changes.

He always stops outside of the room before coming in, so just keep a camera outside and check for him occasionally, or toss a camera on his back.

Also, if you kill the camera operator, he will go check that out as well. This changes his patrol route in a pretty awful way, since he will also use the stairwell room.
Darkest Mind Sep 28, 2023 @ 12:48am 
Originally posted by Otleaz:
Lead guard's patrol route is random, but predictable.

For Dirty Ice, you need to move the hostages into the scanner room BEFORE trying to take anything. As soon as you take a bag, his patrol route changes.

He always stops outside of the room before coming in, so just keep a camera outside and check for him occasionally, or toss a camera on his back.

Also, if you kill the camera operator, he will go check that out as well. This changes his patrol route in a pretty awful way, since he will also use the stairwell room.
i always kill camera guy and lead guard has never gone inside camera room Unless you somehow trigger Search mode.
So far 50 runs done
Otleaz Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by Darkest Mind:
i always kill camera guy and lead guard has never gone inside camera room Unless you somehow trigger Search mode.
So far 50 runs done

I had the lead guard find it on Overkill without search mode. I can't say if it was a bug because I never bothered killing the security guard again after that.
Last edited by Otleaz; Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:19am
[RSQUAD] Marzy Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:21am 
Originally posted by CybernatonEvolution:
Yeah he triggers a different, more thorough search route at the end of heists. You need to be very fast and keep tracks on him either via friends or motion sensor. Apparently, the latter has a timer and doesn't last long enough.

Even if you track him the whole mission, he can simply walk towards hostages/bodies and you can't kill him. You have to let him cuff someone if he didn't walk into a secure area.

As a side note, I had him walk into the VIP room in Dirty Ice consistently, the manager room and the security room in the basement, which worries me because that could mean he is scripted to track bodies.

Honestly the thing that really bothered me about him is how he caught me in the VIP room while the door was closed (no line of sight) but based on sound since I was running inside to bag stuff fast.
Motion sensors last all game. They have a small radius of detection for tagging though.
[RSQUAD] Marzy Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by Otleaz:
Lead guard's patrol route is random, but predictable.

For Dirty Ice, you need to move the hostages into the scanner room BEFORE trying to take anything. As soon as you take a bag, his patrol route changes.

He always stops outside of the room before coming in, so just keep a camera outside and check for him occasionally, or toss a camera on his back.

Also, if you kill the camera operator, he will go check that out as well. This changes his patrol route in a pretty awful way, since he will also use the stairwell room.
Oh ♥♥♥♥ can you put motion sensors on people?
Mordtziel Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:31am 
Motion sensors last all game. They have a small radius of detection for tagging though.
Motion sensors last until they mark 15 targets. However, targets will become unmarked when they leave the radius of the motion sensor. This also means that if you put it on a guard, that guard will never leave the radius and thus, "work" forever.
Last edited by Mordtziel; Sep 28, 2023 @ 1:31am
Netsa Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:10am 
Originally posted by Merk:
getting caught by the camera room guard and blowing up his radio to distract him turning all cameras off for the rest of the heist. experiment and try things its not hard.
Wait what.

Man, the stuff people say on here and then follow up with "just experiment, it's super insanely crazy baby hella easy." Worst posts, best tips.
Cryptic Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:21am 
The lead guards name is Hank. Hank the tank. Everyone hates hank
N3tRunn3r Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:24am 
Very Hard and above are plain time killer gamemodes. Yes, it is no fun, maybe just for once.
just go loud, you wont get xp anyway in stealth
LunarGatta Sep 28, 2023 @ 6:26am 
It's doable.

The heist is far easier with 2 people though.

One masks and hides in the workshop, the other loots the VIP room and the front room in casing.

Extremely easy.
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Date Posted: Sep 27, 2023 @ 12:15pm
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