CRIME.NET IS ALREADY IN THE GAME! AND OFFLINE MODE! >:(

[Seagull Stacks]

Absolute DeepSilver ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Online only was never in the cards until these a$$ clowns showed up.

Links to the pics, if you don't trust them just go to the PDTH heist subreddit and search for "valve did it better 15 years ago." Second comment has the links.

Crime.net beta screenshot - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099551743215423549/1155192117686173726/image.png

Actual hosting and private game menu screenshot -
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099551743215423549/1155192148136837120/image.png

Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/16q7t3e/valve_did_it_better_15_years_ago/

Unbelievable.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by drewbstar:

At this point I'm starting to wonder about Hanlon's razor.
It's easy to blame Starbreeze and assume they hold some form of malicious intent. (I know i have many times over the years)

But there is honest chance it was just incompetence. Given all the technical issues we've seen with the servers and how rushed some of the game seems, it could easily just have been something like, "We can't get this to run without crashing and it doesn't really matter until we add more heists, so focus on the really important thing: getting it out as soon as possible so we stop bleeding cash."

Again, not trying to defend them nor muddy the waters. It's really just speculation until we get commentary from the developers (or if they even add it to the game, lol.)

I was honestly surprised with the Denuovo decision. I wonder what their agreement with them was, and if there were any e.g optout early clauses or how much they were paying before vs after release. I'm sure this'll all be fun speculation once we get the tell-all interview a few years from now. :special:

AFAIK denuvo is often an on-going contractual expense too for companies that use it (at least so I've heard!), so it seems very strange that they'd have that paid up and remove it at the last minute for less backlash than we saw over other choices in this game (like the always online).

The mobile game tier or asset store flip vibe of the game does suggest it was rushed. As does so much of the layout and feel of the game being "borrowed" from various MTX riddled AAA shooters. Incompetence and greed can do the job for a lot of problems for sure. The denuvo thing though still doesn't make sense.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by Greb:

"You better get us our $50,000,000 back within the first year, Almir!" said evil greedy CEO...(edited the rest out)

This was better art than anything in PD3. Life will imitate art? I will bookmark this and wait and watch.

[Rаndo]

Originally posted by Greb:

"You better get us our $50,000,000 back within the first year, Almir!" said evil greedy CEO.

"Don't worry" said Almir, as he puffs from a massive cheese toast flavoured cigar. "I've got it all under control."

"First step, we'll pretend we're adding Denuvo, and then announce we're removing it a week before release. This will garner some goodwill, which will allow us to hold fast against the tide that will follow after the second step."

"Are you sure? That sounds like it could backfire pretty badly. Gamers hate Denuvo, and so do those damn journalists." if the CEO had a soul, he might have been capable of sounding worried.

"Absolutely. Trust me, I've got 10 years working with gamer rage. I know what I'm doing." the sound of crunching can be heard over the phone line.

"Second step, we'll nuke our servers to 10% of their capacity as soon as the release goes live. Every hour, we'll increase the capacity by 2%, slowly, back up to 100%. We'll tell everyone we're working extremely hard to fix it, but instead we'll all taking a much needed week holiday after the crunch."

"Are you crazy!?" the CEO spluttered over the line "That's going to completely destroy us! There will be so many refunds our stock value will plummet! There's no coming back from that!"

A toaster pops in the background. There's the sound of a comb passing through someones beard.

"You only understand how to manipulate numbers. I know how to manipulate gamers. They'll be fine with it once stage three comes into play. We've purposefully designed the game to be as counter intuitive as possible, terrible UI, soulless looking colour scheme, and we've removed functional matchmaking. We've also removed CrimeNet, something we mastered in the previous game and will be expected in this one. It's gonna be awful."

At this point you can hear the CEO panting down the phone, and the sound of furniture scuffling. He's began pacing around his spacious office.

"You are crazy. I'm cutting our losses right now if you don't start making sense!"

Almir chuckles. It sounds like the wrapper of a cheese single being torn open.

"Relax. We've already got a fully functional UI developed and waiting to be released one standard month after the game releases. We're good - we'll release it in the midst of the shítstorm and tell everyone we've been listening to their issues. This, combined with the servers coming back one week after release and Denuvo being gone should completely revert the course. Everyone will love us. They'll be singing our praises. We'll have won."

"It'll never work. The losses will be-"

"Minimal. Once we convince the gamers that we care, any suspicion and mistrust some of our previous Payday 2 players will have, not to mention jaded gamers who are wary of the Games as A Service model, will evaporate. They'll throw caution to the wind and buy the game enmasse. Expect massive sales - even more than release day. And they'll be none the wiser."

The CEO bursts out laughing.

"You're a wicked, wicked man, Almir. You'll go far in this company. Pull this one off and I'm giving you a raise and a place on the board immediately."

A loud crunch is heard over the line.

"One month."

The phone hangs up.

This canonically happened btw

[HomicidalHaz]

Originally posted by Sunday Driver:

Originally posted by Greb:

"You better get us our $50,000,000 back within the first year, Almir!" said evil greedy CEO...(edited the rest out)

This was better art than anything in PD3. Life will imitate art? I will bookmark this and wait and watch.

Its already a tragedy so now we just need the comedy part

[minimo]

Originally posted by AAAndry:

Oh boy, ♥♥♥♥ Deep Silver. There's no reason it'd look so complete yet not in the game.

and then we got this one that is garbage and looks like it was made in a week

[Krusty McBusty the Jizzwow Cloth]

Deep Silver needs to GTFO. They're yet another one of Austria's horrible exports. Genuinely garbage tier publisher.

[Seagull Stacks]

Originally posted by Krusty McBusty the Jizzwow Cloth:

Deep Silver needs to GTFO. They're yet another one of Austria's horrible exports. Genuinely garbage tier publisher.

I'm just curious as to what the devs will say about all of this. Who's taking the fall etc.

[HomicidalHaz]

Originally posted by Seagull Stacks:

Originally posted by Krusty McBusty the Jizzwow Cloth:

Deep Silver needs to GTFO. They're yet another one of Austria's horrible exports. Genuinely garbage tier publisher.

I'm just curious as to what the devs will say about all of this. Who's taking the fall etc.

Why say anything? Ignoring your problems always makes them go away

[shroom]

wow
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kunts.

[ThorF]

yhea soooo they can add offline and crime.net to the game in like 1 week but they wont do it because $$$$

[HomicidalHaz]

Originally posted by ThorF:

yhea soooo they can add offline and crime.net to the game in like 1 week but they wont do it because $$$$

Not gonna bother sticking around that long. Don't think this game has a week's worth of replay value anyway

[HomicidalHaz]

forgot the 👊😎

[Greb]

Originally posted by fher:

new lore dropped

Deepest lore.

Originally posted by Sunday Driver:

This was better art than anything in PD3. Life will imitate art? I will bookmark this and wait and watch.

Well, I hope not lol. At least not for those reasons! But getting everything settled and CrimeNet back I certainly do hope for. Also thanks for snipping your quote

Originally posted by Rando:

This canonically happened btw

Everything is canon until it's proven non-canon

[Croij]

wow, just wow...

[Khanjima]

Originally posted by ThorF:

yhea soooo they can add offline and crime.net to the game in like 1 week but they wont do it because $$$$

It's stupid but i don't see how this correlates with monetary gain at all, they're losing money over it if anything