Dozers are a little OP

[Darth Neon]

I'm not sure what else kills a dozer, but it CERTAINLY isn't TWELVE GRENADES FROM THE PIGLET LAUNCHER SPECIAL DROP WEAPON.

why

EDIT: 18 actually. it was 12 from me and then 6 from my teammate while i was SA A144 mag dumping into the face plate. we both still went down by that very same dozer

EDIT 2: It seems to be less that Dozer is OP and more that the Grenade Launcher special drop is just bad. Dozers are a legit threat and i do like that. But the GL does next to no damage on them and tons of damage to self

edit 3: i feel like quite a few people are missing the original point of the post, which has slightly evolved in the comments.
Yes the Dozer is wearing a Bomb suit. which protects specifically against explosives. but bomb suits are not impervious to damage, and more importantly neither is the squishy human inside impervious to blastwaves
ONE 40mm grenade direct hit is likely to cause trauma of some kind. THREE probably is a concusion, brain damage, or organ failure. SIX is gonna kill you. TWELVE is going to be blasting pieces of armor off your soupy insides. EIGHTEEN is overkill, pun intended. The original post is that the dozer shakes off direct explosive hits like a tank shakes 9mm. which is rediculous

ACTUAL ADVICE that has surfaced:
The GL sucks, dont use it. its more of a liability than a help and doesn't kill dozers.
The 50cal is much better. no self damage, 2-4 shots depending on your accuracy will take down a dozer
OBVIOUSLY shoot the faceplate. but more importantly dozers aim for centermass so if you are behind a chest high wall or taller, you can shoot them and they can't shoot you
additionally, they wont shoot hostages. so nabbing a civ if you have any left, or better yetflashing/stunning a cop and judo flipping him into your loving embrace while you mag dump into the glass part of the fat guy is also viable. getting a kill with your wimpy pistol i suppose is a different problem, good luck

Tangentially, I'd love to see a rocket launcher, flame thrower, and minigun make an appearance as overkill weapons and make OVK weapons be a worthy use of my time instead of probably getting me killed trying to pick em up

[Marvin]

Grenades seem ineffective. I got good results spamming the front of the face with the AK-47. Takes them down in less than 2 mags. I mean extended mag

[candles]

they r easy to kill if u hs em

[Cryptic]

Yeah dozers are kind of ridiculous. All enemies in game are a bit too spongy but ffs the dozer would have to be wearing dragon scale +1 IRL to sustain that much damage

[Vael]

The grenade launcher is pretty bad at dealing with the Dozer
Its more effective to use it on a group of weak Police Enforcer.

Once you hit Level 40, you'll get your second OW Weapons which is far better at dealing with everything and the Dozer

Most of the time, having your team focus down the Dozer is the best way to deal with it.

[Akutare]

They're wearing a bomb suit

[Greb]

He doesn't have his EOD suit on anymore.

That's because he doesn't need it.



I dunno the grenade launcher felt more like a crowd clearing / denial weapon for when you're rushing an objective like the escape at the end of a heist. The sniper rifle sounds like it's more for high threat elimination.

Perhaps the grenade launcher will benefit from the demolitions perk which helps explosives strip armour? Might be good at blowing his armour away, maybe even his visor, and then shooting him dead?

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by Akutare:

They're wearing a bomb suit

Believe it or not, bomb suits aren't bulletproof

[Akutare]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by Akutare:

They're wearing a bomb suit

Believe it or not, bomb suits aren't bulletproof

Yeah but the OP pumped 12 Piglet shots into it, explosives aren't very effective against Dozers

[Vael]

Originally posted by Greb:

He doesn't have his EOD suit on anymore.

That's because he doesn't need it.

:stronk:

I dunno the grenade launcher felt more like a crowd clearing / denial weapon for when you're rushing an objective like the escape at the end of a heist. The sniper rifle sounds like it's more for high threat elimination.

Perhaps the grenade launcher will benefit from the demolitions perk which helps explosives strip armour? Might be good at blowing his armour away, maybe even his visor, and then shooting him dead?

The strip armor part only work for non-special enemies, which is a shame.

[Tox]

The AK with the right perks makes fairly light work of them.

[Greb]

Originally posted by Vael:

The strip armor part only work for non-special enemies, which is a shame.

Oh

What about the armour penetration skill? I'm guessing that one also doesn't let you sometimes shoot right through his visor either?

[Vael]

Originally posted by Greb:

Originally posted by Vael:

The strip armor part only work for non-special enemies, which is a shame.

Oh

What about the armour penetration skill? I'm guessing that one also doesn't let you sometimes shoot right through his visor either?

I don't know, when I used the perk, I didn't think to check if the Dozer was dying faster. It didn't seem at fist glance, to "damage him more".
Maybe it does, i'm just not sure about it, sorry.

[Greb]

No worries, thanks for the response

[Darth Neon]

Originally posted by Akutare:

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Believe it or not, bomb suits aren't bulletproof

Yeah but the OP pumped 12 Piglet shots into it, explosives aren't very effective against Dozers

Bomb suits are strong sure. Especially against explosives. But these are direct hits from 40mm grenade rounds. Likely military standard, high explosive frag grenades since the new
Overkill Drop is still based off the MGL. At the very LEAST you'd be dead from organ trauma or brain damage after the...what, 6th grenade? Max? Probably the 3rd? Definitely by the 12th and 18 is mushy bloody overkill

I'm JS i think the Grenade launcher needs a buff, or more preferably the Dozer a nerf. It just shouldn't take all your ammo of the special, overpowered gun that gets helidropped into a heist as a reward for playing well to kill one Dozer. God help you if you manage to have two spawn

[Hartias]

YES!!! And i cant be happier!!!! Finally you cant melt dozers in one second

And dont worry as ppl improve and get better gear, they will be falling pretty fast