What makes spectral croa appear in those huge amount?

[n3mes1s]

Day 25 and i keep fighting every night 20+ spectral croa (and rising) its ridiculous while in my previous run i never had to fight more than 1-3 in the beginning of the run.

So what makes this happen? it is something with the mage score? why some runs just 3 and others 20+?

[Star Paladin]

They are a HUGE pain in the rump, but here is what will help: When you kill a Croa, unless you destroy the body, and good luck with that, it's gets stored. At night, all Croa corpses spawn spectral croas near their corpses.

In your list of "everything" on the right, look for "Non Mage corpses". When opened up, you should see Croa corpses. Click on that, and it will tab through where all the corpses are stored. clear/remove them from the containers, and destroy the bodies.

It's beta of course, so important to point out for devs as they improve the game. Problem is, I have found no way to keep mages/quilts to "not" grab their bodies and store them. Most the time, even a lvl 5 Destroy order won't get there in time before they are stored.

[Philtre]

Originally posted by Star Paladin:

Problem is, I have found no way to keep mages/quilts to "not" grab their bodies and store them. Most the time, even a lvl 5 Destroy order won't get there in time before they are stored.

Research the Midden Jelly, build a couple, set them to high priority. Add composting orders to each of them to make brains and eyeballs; set at least one of these recipes to "infinite" on each Midden Jelly. Voila, all of your croa corpses get automatically broken down for resources.

[Kahri]

1. see the midden jelly option above.
2. you can cancel the store order.
3. if your mages are too busy to destroy in time before nightfall, then instead of 'store' (or even if already stored) simply 'move' the corpse to the area that'll be covered by fog when night falls. The fog will destroy the corpse for you.
4. you can directly order a mage to destroy the corpse as their first priority by having the mage selected and then right-clicking the corpse and selecting 'destroy'. That way they'll do it immediately.

[Star Paladin]

I did try turning off storing corpses, but if you use and save quilt corpses, they will flood the ground. Turned the jelly up to 5 and all recopies to infinite, but they never took a cora corps (only the rats).

On a side note: Anyone else's rat farm not working? I have it up and running; feed them in their trough; they eat it; but never grow past 6 (and I have it set to 8 or more). And none of my wolves ever come to eat them (and I have the "you can eat'm box checked).

[Philtre]

Originally posted by Star Paladin:

Turned the jelly up to 5 and all recopies to infinite, but they never took a cora corps (only the rats).

That is not a good setup. Like all crafting stations, Midden Jellies will work on recipes from the top downwards, and move to the next only after all the recipes above it are fulfilled. So if the recipe at the top of the list is set to infinite, they will never do anything else unless there are not enough materials for the recipe to run.

Rat corpses can be stored indefinitely without problems, so set the recipes that use those to a level that fits your needs. Move the two recipes that use croa (brains and eyeballs) to the top of the list; put the one you think you need the less of at the very top and set it to a sensible limit, and put the other one second and set it to infinite. (Or have two jellies, one with infinite brains on top, and the other with infinite eyeballs on top.)

On a side note: Anyone else's rat farm not working? I have it up and running; feed them in their trough; they eat it; but never grow past 6 (and I have it set to 8 or more). And none of my wolves ever come to eat them (and I have the "you can eat'm box checked).

Wolfkin will prefer to eat conviction-boosting food if you have any, so they won't eat rats unless there is nothing better. The number of rats that can be in a pen is limited by the size of the pen, so your pen may just be too small for 8 rats; if you look through the pen's infobox, somewhere it should tell you how many rats it can hold.

[Star Paladin]

Thanks, I had NO idea the order of the recipes was the priority of sorts. I'm making a bigger pen then. Guess PETA did not notice.

[n3mes1s]

No, you guys dont get it. This has nothing to do with killing croa, storing or whatever. In the past, when you killed a croa and you dont get rid of the body, a spectral one will appear at night. Its not the case anymore since the last updates. Apparently killing croas and getting rid of the bodies has no impact whatsoever on spectral croas appearing at night. And even if it was the case, if kill only three croas why the h3ck i need to fight 30+ spectral croas at night?

More so, i NEVER EVER hunt croas in the first 30-40 days or so. Never done anything different from one run to another.

And yet, every frikkin night i need to kill like 30 spectral croa (right now 35+). And it is getting to a point that it is just not possible. Because they keep increasing in number. Right now i have like almost 1,5k ectoplasm stored.... and also no way to get rid of it of course.

Did two runs before this one and i never had to kill more than 3-4 spectral croas at night.
Im clueless here.

This needs to be fixed asap.

This game is never going to go out from early access at this rate...

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by Star Paladin:

It's beta of course

Sure, lets keep using that "excuse" after more than one year and a half.. lol.

[Kahri]

If you're getting spectrals without having killed any croas, then is your save file bugged or something?

I'd use F8 to report it.

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by Kahri:

If you're getting spectrals without having killed any croas, then is your save file bugged or something?

I'd use F8 to report it.

Well, i was exagerating sooner or later i always kill some croas along the way, but again, only a few.

Thats what im talking about. I have stored like only about 20-30 croa corpses, total. And yet im getting 30+ spectral croas from em.. ridiculous.

[Star Paladin]

n3 are you joking? If you store 30 croa corpses, it will spawn 30 spectral croa.

[Philtre]

Every croa corpse will spawn a spectral croa once per night. So yes, you need to make sure you are dealing with them and not letting them pile up. Either manually destroy them, or have them processed at the Midden Jelley.

[ExMachina14]

Originally posted by n3mes1s:

Day 25 and i keep fighting every night 20+ spectral croa (and rising)

LMAO

If this is true, it's quite an accomplishment. All those spectral croa will at least generate lots of ectoplasm for potions and wands.

Stop killing the croa. Move all of their bodies next to the fog to be consumed the next time the fog moves. Or do the thing with the midden jelly.

[n3mes1s]

Im about to give up in this game, again. Its ridiculous how unbalanced it is. So, i had to lower the difficulty settings to almost minimum because fighting 2 fog encarnations, 2 breathstealers and 30 spectral croas at night at the same time is literally impossible. So i have to mitigate the difficulty in some way.

Devs, i dunno what you doing but please put a limit on how many dangers we need to face at night. Maximum 1 fog encarnation and 1 breahtstealer. At most. Thats enough. More than that is ridiculous and i cant imagine people playing on higher difficulties how they do it. This is supossed to be a RELAXED game for god's sake, sigh.

Also i cant believe that at this point we still dont have a way to get rid of excess materials. Its ridiculous. Every frikkin management game has some sort of station to downgrade or upgrade materials so we can get rid of them. This game needs something like that asap and something that should be in the game since almost alpha stage.

At least make it so we only get one spectral croa for every 5 croa corpses or so. I keep avoiding hunting croas and my number of spectral croas keep rising for no reason. Tired of it.

[Star Paladin]

N3, I don't know about the other stuff you are talking about, but we already told you how to remove the Croa problem entirely. Sounds like you did not do what we suggested.