what did I do wrong?

[kingjames488]

everyone was freaking out because of lack of recreation... so I try to build them a rec room.

next thing I know it's raining and they're not building the new roof fast enough and all the beds are soaked and they're sleeping on the floor and someone has a mental break and gets dragged off into the fog and the fog advances and I can't push it back because the requirements to perform the ritual changed for some reason?!

how are you even supposed to build new rooms if everyone has a mental break while you're renovating due to not having the rooms that were giving them conviction?

[Elidrin]

Thats alot of bad luck. But you renovated a room with people living in it, sounds like a large renovation which gave time for that bad luck to hit.

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by Elidrin:

Thats alot of bad luck. But you renovated a room with people living in it, sounds like a large renovation which gave time for that bad luck to hit.

the room with the beds was like 2 floors below what I was working on, I'd have thought the floor above them would be sufficient while I was re-doing the area above but apparently the school is next to the simpsons nuclear power plant and there's some crazy bad acid rain or something lol...

[Ilthe]

like irl renovating a currently inhabited place is a bad idea - people build temporary residence for big renovations

here placing enough beds and dining spots in underschool is the quickest way to provide temporary living space and it is almost free since the rooms are already there - or comepletely free if you move your existing furniture

good way to start is dropping your first rec stuff in there too, untill you build proper rooms safely

all furniture works outside of designated rooms - most of the time the rooms just give production/efficiency/mood bonus - so don't forget that you can use the underschool rooms for all the stuff you haven't built the rooms yet

I think the only things that would not work there at all are plants (maybe night requiring will work with mana lanterns idk) and the green dragon

[Ilthe]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

Originally posted by Elidrin:

Thats alot of bad luck. But you renovated a room with people living in it, sounds like a large renovation which gave time for that bad luck to hit.

the room with the beds was like 2 floors below what I was working on, I'd have thought the floor above them would be sufficient while I was re-doing the area above but apparently the school is next to the simpsons nuclear power plant and there's some crazy bad acid rain or something lol...

two layers of flooring protect just like one layer of roof, or at least they should

one layer of floor will leak on everything that is directly below - damage looks like a little slower that under direct rain, but still impactful

[Philtre]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

the room with the beds was like 2 floors below what I was working on, I'd have thought the floor above them would be sufficient while I was re-doing the area above but apparently the school is next to the simpsons nuclear power plant and there's some crazy bad acid rain or something lol...

Be careful with removing roofs; you might want to build in sections if you have a big renovation or not a lot of free people to work on the project.

Also, people can still use the enchantophone even if it isn't in a rec room. You can even put them in any free spot in the Underschool to let them have recreation while you build a proper room.

Originally posted by kingjames488:

the fog advances and I can't push it back because the requirements to perform the ritual changed for some reason?!

The materials needed for the repel fog ritual depend on how far back the fog is currently pushed. The further away it is, the more expensive the ritual is.

[kingjames488]

ya, I had like 3 enchantophones in various places but everyone was still craving recreation. even now with like 3 rec slots and a rec room they still hardly have enough recreation to keep their conviction up.

am I missing something or is the enchantophone the only form of recreation in the game until you get libations 2/3 of the way through the tech tree(and then they're only for staff)?

[Ilthe]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

ya, I had like 3 enchantophones in various places but everyone was still craving recreation. even now with like 3 rec slots and a rec room they still hardly have enough recreation to keep their conviction up.

am I missing something or is the enchantophone the only form of recreation in the game until you get libations 2/3 of the way through the tech tree(and then they're only for staff)?

each enchantophone can only give fun for 4 mages max at the same time - if you have one schedule for all, make sure that you have enough enchantophones for them

also, students need 5 rec slots and staff 4 to maintain full recreation
(initial rec is 0, so you'll have to wait a long time to get to the max with 5&4 schedule rec slots, or give some initial fun days untill the fresh mage maxed out his recreation for the first time, and then swith him for your normal schedule)

[Adam]

Yeah i feel your pain, i had something similar happen but not with living area but dining hall, it sucks when events stack up against the clock you are trying to race. Best advice is save often, if you know rain comming let it and then do your thing.

[Naustghoul]

I feel that we just need more recreation items for the school. It turns into not paying attention to that one thing that we need because we spawn that stupid player all over. Thank gods that they gave us the ability to mute it. If we had:

1. Magical badminton.
2. A driving range for golf.
3. Chess (they shrink and play on the board.)
4. Broom racing (they could do it in the distance.)
5. Dedicated illusion shows (think TV room or movie theater... or Punch and Judy.)

Anything to make us stop the boredom and liven up the school a little more and stop the blind spot from occurring.

[Philtre]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

am I missing something or is the enchantophone the only form of recreation in the game until you get libations 2/3 of the way through the tech tree(and then they're only for staff)?

Yup, that's how it works. If you don't want to give them a ton of recreation time, you can load up on other conviction buffs (including ones from liked tasks and relics) to offset the "craving recreation" debuff.

[kingjames488]

that seems kinda silly, I think the game definitely needs more than one form of recreation.

chess sounds like a good idea.

or maybe some sort of dueling arena, that'd be kinda neat.

[kingjames488]

not to mention when I order someone to go dance they only do so for about 10 seconds, not enough to make any difference at all, and then they waste twice as much time walking back to do whatever they were upset about >.>

[kingjames488]

ok, so I guess this game is just totally RNG lol...

in one reality I try to hold a feast and someone breaks right in the middle of it and someone else breaks after that and gets dragged off into unrecoverable fog again.

in another reality they complete the feast and nothing bad happens.

this is just beyond ridiculous how you can do everything right and have such drastically different outcomes.

[Ilthe]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

not to mention when I order someone to go dance they only do so for about 10 seconds, not enough to make any difference at all, and then they waste twice as much time walking back to do whatever they were upset about >.>

recreation is a timed action - they do a little dance that fills a bit of the bar, then, if schedule allows and there is still available dance spot, they do their little dance again

if they spent whole schedule slot on travelling across the map to the enchantophone, they would only do one dance - or not at all if by the time they arrive the schedule movet to next block

because of thet it is generally advised to put rec time (and food too) slots near the times mages are already near the facilities - after sleep and class usually

giving your mages breaks in the middle of the work schedule is a trap that leaves your mages sad and hungry instead

alternatively you could generously sprinkle dining rooms and break/dance rooms close to your work facilities - but since the commons are so big and student tasks outside of studeing are usually spread out, students would be still requiring big schedule blocks instead of shorter ones

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by Ilthe:

Originally posted by kingjames488:

not to mention when I order someone to go dance they only do so for about 10 seconds, not enough to make any difference at all, and then they waste twice as much time walking back to do whatever they were upset about >.>

recreation is a timed action - they do a little dance that fills a bit of the bar, then, if schedule allows and there is still available dance spot, they do their little dance again

if they spent whole schedule slot on travelling across the map to the enchantophone, they would only do one dance - or not at all if by the time they arrive the schedule movet to next block

because of thet it is generally advised to put rec time (and food too) slots near the times mages are already near the facilities - after sleep and class usually

giving your mages breaks in the middle of the work schedule is a trap that leaves your mages sad and hungry instead

alternatively you could generously sprinkle dining rooms and break/dance rooms close to your work facilities - but since the commons are so big and student tasks outside of studeing are usually spread out, students would be still requiring big schedule blocks instead of shorter ones

you're saying this like it makes some logical sense that when the game is telling me that my dupes wizards need to recreate(♥♥♥♥ I hate that word) and I tell them to go and do that and they don't fulfil said need that is fine and makes perfect sense...

they need a thing, I manually tell them to go fill the need... they should fill the need.

I told someone to go have a drink and they sat there for like a whole day doing so ffs... idk how it takes anyone that long to drink something but I guess they must have really been enjoying it.