Phoenix Kiss plant should be a save spawn,...

[Tech Enthusiast]

... my current game has zero of these plants spawned.
I pushed back the fog as far as I could without needing Phoenix Kiss,... I can not unlock the underground without Phoenix Kiss either.

So basically the game is dead as far as I can tell? Like, how can I get that stuff at this point, if there is not a single natural spawn in my reach?

[True Dragon]

Phoenix Kiss are in the first spawn zone (Gutberry and Wood). So unless you have a Cold Snap event going on or have completely filled in the first spawn zone with planters or foundations etc they should eventually show up.

[n3mes1s]

Its random. Depends on the game seed and luck. Sometimes yes, phoenix kiss are very scarce, others arent. But no matter what, there will be ALWAYS at least some phoenix kiss for you to farm. If its true you say that there arent any, then it must be a bug.

What you have to do is to research the phoenix planters as soon as you can if you see that you dont get many of em around.

[Tech Enthusiast]

I have zero of them in my last game. No seeds in boxes, not a single kiss either.
To research the planters, I kinda need to get into the underground and I can't do that without the plant. And even If I was able to do the research... I would need a seed to get it started, which I do not have.

So that save is indeed dead sadly.

[n3mes1s]

Well, at this point ive done dozens of runs, and i always had phoenix kiss spawning. Sometimes a lot of em, sometimes just a couple. But zero? nada? thats very weird and nobody seem to having that problem but you. Are you sure you are looking carefully and that you tilt the camera so you dont miss any?

You can always restart another run. You are just started so you dont miss anything.

[Tech Enthusiast]

I did restart another run, yes.
Not like the lack of that plant would jump into view late game.

But also yes: I am 100% certain I tried everything to get it or find it and there was just none.
My new game has A LOT of em, so I can progress again.

[JeanDeaux]

I've seen this before with ice plants, I think it's a RNG from hell roll where some of those plants just get a REALLY low (if not zero) spawn % rate.

I've taken to looking at the nearby grounds on a new map to make sure I have enough representation of vegetation. If you see some of those core plants missing or in very low supply then just restart a new map/game.

[n3mes1s]

If this was a bug, people will complain about it cuz its something basic and obvious (but people seem to love broken games nowadays so maybe they just dont care). Again, never had this problem with any plant after almost 15 runs by now. Sorry but i think that you guys are just not looking carefully. There are always one or two plants to farm, no matter if they are phoenix kiss, ice or whatever. They can take a lot of time to spawn, but they always do. Sooner or later. Never had to restart the game because of this... ever.

[JeanDeaux]

I'm not knocking the low % occurrences, just depends on how much of a challenge I'm after. There are times I want a harder start and other times I don't. I don't think this is a bug at all, I think it's just a RNG for random spawn rates and (rarely) you just get a bad roll. If you play long enough end harvest enough for a clear spot you will eventually get that rare spawn, just be sure you don't waste those when they come through and prioritize planting a bed over utilizing.

[haevlyn]

The wraiths that appear in your school can be fought and killed for loot, including arcane scrolls and phoenix kiss seeds. I intentionally pushed a hard custom setting with only 1 starting teacher and no flame kiss spawns. It took a while, but it is possible to recover from it!

It would be nice to have a customisation setting for "Resources" with a "low, medium, high" option though!

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by haevlyn:

The wraiths that appear in your school can be fought and killed for loot, including arcane scrolls and phoenix kiss seeds

Thats just pure luck. The loot is random, so sure, maybe after fighting twenty wraiths as you call em, you get phoenix kiss. The game is designed to be random, sometimes you dont get almost any phoenix kiss to harves, sometimes it happens with ice petals and other times it happens with smokereed. RANDOM. But nope, it isnt bugged. The op is just not looking carefully. There are always one or two of em spawning around. Its literally impossible to have ZERO of em after many days. In any case this is not the place for bug reports or sugesstions, you have reddit for that.

[Othobrithol]

Any other growth or gardening in the area can crowd out potential spawns, so clearing the entire area of excess gardening boxes, stones, sunshadow trees and wyrmweed can help the re-spawning algorithm along.

It's just a guess, but I suspect that the game may actually skip a scheduled spawn if the location it randomly chooses is blocked. It's how you would want to handle spawns blocked by player action (eg planters, foundations etc) but less than ideal for initial game state.