Will the game maintain the satirical tone of Verhoeven's movie?

[Hazardous Wastrel]

As someone looking forward to this game, I must wonder if the devs intend to keep the overall satirical and darkly humorous tone of the movie, which is essentially a subversion of the novel.

I would definitely prefer they keep that tone, much like the game Helldivers, instead of trying for a more serious story. The trailer doesn't show much besides gameplay snippets and heroic music (which I'm hoping is as ironic as it was in the film), so I can't tell yet what direction they want to go in.

[忍バツ]

One day we'll get a Lore accurate adaption of the book. Though this does feel closer to the book kind of the like the new anime films.

[Russ Rockjaw]

"AcTuAlY i PrEfEr ThE bOoK"
Shut up nerd. The movie is more popular and always will be. Nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about the book.
We all just want to kill bugs good, just like Rico from Buenos Ares.

[Myo]

u tell that stupid nerd what's up, LET'S KILL SOME BUGS

[HexeR]

Originally posted by Hazardous Wastrel:

As someone looking forward to this game, I must wonder if the devs intend to keep the overall satirical and darkly humorous tone of the movie, which is essentially a subversion of the novel.

I would definitely prefer they keep that tone, much like the game Helldivers, instead of trying for a more serious story. The trailer doesn't show much besides gameplay snippets and heroic music (which I'm hoping is as ironic as it was in the film), so I can't tell yet what direction they want to go in.

The movie is a failed satire, so I hope it doesn't. Verhoeven's satire doesn't lend well to the film. In the movie, as well as the book, the arachnids are an intergalactic species that hops from planet to planet, and the movie does literally nothing to satirize the military as being fascist and evil in comparison to the bugs other than making the humans look reminiscent of nazis in their military uniforms, which, since the nazi outfits were designed by Hugo Boss, does nothing but make them look badass.

Other than that, their society is very structured, organized, practical, and simply just seems to work, we're never shown a single solitary poverty stricken neighborhood or an evil eugenics program. The movie, ironically, functions best as a fake satire that is genuinely pro-military, because that's what the movie ended up being. My dad who's in the military unironically loves it, and the film lifts passages directly from the book which argues might-makes-right, and does not do anything to criticize or counter that narrative.

If you watch the commentary for Starship Troopers, you will see that Verhoeven is not the smartest person when it comes to satire.

[XIX Victorious Aut Mortis]

Please god NO, the movie was Crap compared to the book, Verhoeven didn't understnad the book, due to the fact he Got Boerd and couldn't finish it (it showed how much he cared) but also the fact that he uses his own personnel experience to make the moive which why most people think that Starhship troopers is about Fascism when it about exploring the ideal of a different from of Government that being restricted Franchise/ Military Control. and not that of a Fascist dictatorship as portrayed in the movie. with the whole nazi unifrom and using the triumph of the will as a Base.

if they want to base it from the movie Franchises' serries they should do it from the CGI Starship Troopers Invasion, the 1988 Anime or the Roughnecks. but preferable the book.

[Hazardous Wastrel]

Wow. I was not expecting **both** sides of this argument to be completely insufferable, but here we are.

[onewhofound]

The "satirical tone of Verhoeven's movie"? The only satire that is actually in that movie is that it is supposed to be a takedown of fascism, but Verhoecen forgot to put any actual fascism in the movie.

Which would normally just be laughable, but now we have an entire generation of people who think that as long as you aren't wearing a black trenchcoat when you do something it isn't fascist.

[SheaDy]

Originally posted by Hazardous Wastrel:

Wow. I was not expecting **both** sides of this argument to be completely insufferable, but here we are.

The only thing worse than listening to someone with an insufferable opinion, is listening to someone state their opinion that doesn't add anything meaningful to the "debate"

Go take a stroll down Washout Lane.

[kissmyblasst]

Most likely will be destroyed but most fans probably never read the book.I love the series and have no desire to ever read the book.

[onewhofound]

Originally posted by kissmyblasst:

Most likely will be destroyed but most fans probably never read the book.I love the series and have no desire to ever read the book.

A shame, the book is so famous and loved because it is really good. A lot of people have been inspired by it. Not terribly long either, being originally a pulp novel - as opposed to an epic literary tome like LotR or something.

If reading just isn't your thing at all, why not check it out as an audiobook? It is free at this link:

https://archive.org/details/StarshipTroopersByRobertAHeinleinAudiobookFull

[kissakias]

movies were 100% as the world really should be.

[Vlesh]

Yep, big fan of the movie. Never plan on reading the book because of people like in here talking about the book like it's some kind of holy bible. The fan base of the book has ruined any hopes and curiosity I originally had when I found out the movie was based on a book.

So in that regard. Movie all the way. I knew someones whose family lived in Buenos Ares and I say let's kill some bugs.

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by ぶっかけ忍者:

Yep, big fan of the movie. Never plan on reading the book because of people like in here talking about the book like it's some kind of holy bible. The fan base of the book has ruined any hopes and curiosity I originally had when I found out the movie was based on a book.

Yep, if you are fan of the movie the book will disappoint because it takes itself seriously and has very little action. Also skinnies are boring copy paste of little green alien people, I've no idea why everyone is so fascinated by them.

I like them both, but have found other books that are much better read for some bug stomping action. Armor

[onewhofound]

Originally posted by Hazardous Wastrel:

If you watch the commentary for Starship Troopers, you will see that Verhoeven is not the smartest person when it comes to satire.

LMAO SO TRUE! It's weird because he has moments of brilliance. Look at the takedown of corporations in Robocop, really great worldbuilding there. But he just turned the satire section of his brain off when he made ST for some reason.

[onewhofound]

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Originally posted by ぶっかけ忍者:

Yep, big fan of the movie. Never plan on reading the book because of people like in here talking about the book like it's some kind of holy bible. The fan base of the book has ruined any hopes and curiosity I originally had when I found out the movie was based on a book.

Yep, if you are fan of the movie the book will disappoint because it takes itself seriously and has very little action. Also skinnies are boring copy paste of little green alien people, I've no idea why everyone is so fascinated by them.

I like them both, but have found other books that are much better read for some bug stomping action. Armor

Not a huge fan of 'Armor'. Its a radically different story and radically different genre. Steakly is a great poet and perhaps a better action writer but doesn't understand warfare or soldier psychology at all. As an IRL soldier I found the unrealism kind of irritating because I couldn't believe that any of the characters in the book were actually soldiers.