Stop putting electric fence around the arc.

[Dog]

Put them at the exteriors, they immobilize and you can shoot through them. Just put normal walls around the arc.

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

hunters with dmr rifles are the true heros of defending base on arc missions.

[SVaughan]

A Brit managed to get a bunch of blueberries to put walls around the ARC and electrify a kill box leading to it. It was glorious.

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

Originally posted by SVaughan:

A Brit managed to get a bunch of blueberries to put walls around the ARC and electrify a kill box leading to it. It was glorious.

The buggs are actually easy to hold off without walls. You just need a lot of ammo.

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by ZOMBIECRUNCH:

Originally posted by SVaughan:

A Brit managed to get a bunch of blueberries to put walls around the ARC and electrify a kill box leading to it. It was glorious.

The buggs are actually easy to hold off without walls. You just need a lot of ammo.

I play Bastion. But a lot of the people I end up with vary between idiots who don't know what to do with their lives, or actual team players. I've had a few runs where there were some true morons in charge of base building and left a wide open gap to the ARC. We damn near failed because of their incompetency.

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

Originally posted by SVaughan:

Originally posted by ZOMBIECRUNCH:

The buggs are actually easy to hold off without walls. You just need a lot of ammo.

I play Bastion. But a lot of the people I end up with vary between idiots who don't know what to do with their lives, or actual team players. I've had a few runs where there were some true morons in charge of base building and left a wide open gap to the ARC. We damn near failed because of their incompetency.

hmmmm.... I think I should grab another beer after reading that.

[Its_your_HERO]

actually the electric walls around the arc is good. Less pin point damage from bugs. The bugs spread out when they enter the base. The electric walls slow the bugs down enough so you can defend the Arc area.
On the outside, the bugs will just rush through them.

[kampfer91]

Originally posted by Its_your_HERO:

actually the electric walls around the arc is good. Less pin point damage from bugs. The bugs spread out when they enter the base. The electric walls slow the bugs down enough so you can defend the Arc area.
On the outside, the bugs will just rush through them.

No , it is terrible , if the bug already get into the base and attacking the wall surrounding the arc then the situation is already fked . The elec fence is weak in durability and prevent you from climbing to fix the ARC .

Instead , use them on narrow path ahead of a bunker , even a single Hunter with Hawkeye can defend the choke point for a long time till the elec wall give in and bug start to attack the bunker .

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

Originally posted by kampfer91:

Originally posted by Its_your_HERO:

actually the electric walls around the arc is good. Less pin point damage from bugs. The bugs spread out when they enter the base. The electric walls slow the bugs down enough so you can defend the Arc area.
On the outside, the bugs will just rush through them.

No , it is terrible , if the bug already get into the base and attacking the wall surrounding the arc then the situation is already fked . The elec fence is weak in durability and prevent you from climbing to fix the ARC .

Instead , use them on narrow path ahead of a bunker , even a single Hunter with Hawkeye can defend the choke point for a long time till the elec wall give in and bug start to attack the bunker .

This is true. It take a little bit till I don't care anymore as a hunter.

[Darkeyedseer]

I have do disagree the electric around the comes with several advantages over solid walls
as someone pointed out the bugs are not programed to rush the arc once they are in the base area they spread out and target little bit of everything.

this means the that the electric fence is not going to get swarmed as long as there are other targets. this maters when your playing on vet as were if you put them on the front line your going to find that they last for all of about 2 seconds when the swarm dogpiles becasues they literally are in the way making them main target of the swarm. these things dont work like they do in the movies where they were a instakill as long as they were powered. if they worked like the movies then yea put them on the front line.

they are also great around the arc because you can see though them. this means that when a breach happens you can visual check to make the arc is clear in a second were if you solid walls you have to walk around and make sure a breach has not happened on the sides that are not visible from your current location.

[Tsunamisan]

Walls on the arc is idiot proof. and you almost always have that one person that start it early.

They just need to allow placement of more things but increases the cost each time.

[DtHouse]

You should put bunker and wall around ark, electric fence otside to slow down bugs, but people are just retarded and they put fence around the ark, bunker between wall and gate everywhere with turrent putted at random

[Aeekto]

All just opinions and personal preferences !
In reality it all depends on the current team which choice is better.

[ElysiumNight]

Originally posted by DtHouse:

You should put bunker and wall around ark, electric fence otside to slow down bugs, but people are just retarded and they put fence around the ark, bunker between wall and gate everywhere with turrent putted at random

there's too many idiots that dismantle the bunker cause they don't know they can just climb over it

[Bainrow Kicks]

I found that communicating in-game works wonders!

If you have any preference to how the base is being built then you should make your voice heard in the beginning of the match. I really dislike people coming back form a raid starting to complain about how the base is built when not a single word has been uttered up until that point.

I never design the build, but I can sometimes suggest that we "start building from the arc and outwards" or "should we build bunkers around the arc?" while waiting for the arc to land.

In my opinion, a communicating team is more important than a well built base.

[Katmorphous333]

I think its situational, purposely putting fences as exterior walls is a bad idea simply because they have less health than regular walls and like someone said, when the bugs pile up the fences are destroyed really easy and thats not counting tiger and grenadier hits.

The usual 1 exterior wall 1 inner wall with all fences around the arc works just fine. 1 bunker next to the arc with 3 fences or 2 bunkers with 2 fences on opposite sides are good for bad arc spawns. Id say the best fence funnel you could make is a fence in between 2 bunkers starting from the center and put an extra fence behind it in case it is breached.

But I think most of the time the arc spawns in places where you have to defend the entire surroundings and you cant make a perfect funnel which ends with the bugs just attacking whats around it instead of focusing where you want them to go. Id say if you really want to use them as walls use them for the inner wall where you know the bugs will go once they breach or put them to create extra lines of fire so players can kill breaching bugs from other parts of the base.