Put Electric Fences on the OUTSIDE of the base.

[Atomic]

Hey all, Electric fences are commonly used on interior of bases surround the arc. This is not an effect method of using the electric fences for several reasons:

First, you cannot climb over the electric fences, making it more time consuming and difficult to access the arc when delivering gas. They are also very expensive and for the price of one electric fence you can surround the arc with small gates.

Secondly, when placed in front of a defensive structure, bugs will be stunned for a considerable period of time, meaning that they increase the time bugs can be near defenses while also decreasing bug damage output.

Lastly, You can shoot through the fences! Meaning you can have defensive structures behind them that amplify trooper capabilities and reduced the number of needed troopers needed per wall. If you have a grenade launcher you can while out entire WAVES of bugs that get stunned on the fences.

So lets put the ore to its best use and start building theses fences on the OUTSIDE!!!!!!

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by Atomic:

First, you cannot climb over the electric fences, making it more time consuming and difficult to access the arc when delivering gas. They are also very expensive and for the price of one electric fence you can surround the arc with small gates.

Build tower with ladder facing outside fence and another from inside fence.

Solved.

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

[Dr. Rockso]

Best use i've seen is to have them at choke points inside the base although it doesn't matter what you do if no one repairs during the Arc scan.

I've seen some of the better designed bases crumble for this reason and seen some of the crappiest designs withstand the wave because some were actively repairing during the scan.

[Badgersbeard]

Originally posted by Dr. Rockso:

Best use i've seen is to have them at choke points inside the base although it doesn't matter what you do if no one repairs during the Arc scan.

I've seen some of the better designed bases crumble for this reason and seen some of the crappiest designs withstand the wave because some were actively repairing during the scan.

Very much this tbh.

Combat repping is vital regardless how you set the base up. It's one reason I'm of the camp that you keep the bases as simple as possible, to make repping faster and safer....not always viable of course, and I'm fully aware of the arguments against this.
What it comes down to is the team itself. How many people are repping? How many need to? (based off how efficiently the bugs are getting killed). How safely can this be carried out without allowing the waves to build up etc. etc.

The only way to really test this is when you start getting 16 player pre-made teams running multiple organised tests in hard mode...not something I've heard about yet tbh

[Ender Zayne]

Too bad most players won't read this. I find bunkers to be better around the arc

[<Caeris↝]

In one of my matches we had 5 Bastions around the ARC which also solved our problem with defending it.

[kampfer91]

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Build tower with ladder facing outside fence and another from inside fence.

Solved.

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

You are wasting tower for nothing . A tower in the middle of the base provide no tactical advantage and most of the time people won't even go there . The fence have weak durability and the bug will take down both tower and fence in no time .

A tower should be around outer defensive wall to be able to shoot at whatever directly beneath the wall , or provide a park out point to get into building rooftop for Bastion and Operator .

[Disidious]

Always thought of making a U shape to create a tunnel for the bugs to come into then setup a turret next to it as it can shoot through the cracks on it. Kill box

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by kampfer91:

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Build tower with ladder facing outside fence and another from inside fence.

Solved.

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

You are wasting tower for nothing . A tower in the middle of the base provide no tactical advantage and most of the time people won't even go there . The fence have weak durability and the bug will take down both tower and fence in no time .

A tower should be around outer defensive wall to be able to shoot at whatever directly beneath the wall , or provide a park out point to get into building rooftop for Bastion and Operator .

It resolves the issue at hand of not being able to traverse over electric fences.

You get about 8 towers, they are cheap and most teams barely even trooper up in 2 of the 8 that get spammed around the base.

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

[kampfer91]

Again , i am talking of efficiency . Take your crappy building 101 elsewhere .

You want to repair the ARC as fast as possible ? Slap the gate with 3 walls , way cheaper than 4 elec fence , you can shoot from the wall , you can climb the wall .

The mission is to delay the bug from getting to the ARC as long as possible , all tools have to be used , the elec fence and turret is the most expensive pieces therefore you gotta build it right so it can pay its cost , or else it will be just useless decoration .

4 elec fence around ARC help no one , 4 elec fences placed in chokepoint help even new guy who just install the game .

[Hard Dick Actual]

Originally posted by <Caeris↝:

In one of my matches we had 5 Bastions around the ARC which also solved our problem with defending it. :ShugoLaugh:

Could've been me and the boys haha.

[SirScoots]

You can also fill the orange stuff through an electric fence by simply crouching, you do not need to jump over and get inside the fences to deposit. #TMYK

[kampfer91]

Just mean higher chance of someone deposit the last canister without everyone notice . Wall and gate for ARC.

[Purple Sauce]

People actually put these inside the base wtf? Why would you do that?

[Netaris]

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Build tower with ladder facing outside fence and another from inside fence.

Solved.

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

No, it doesn't solve anything. I've already seen that kind of things done and it doesn't work. Often bugs prevent you from even reached it if badly placed. E-fences around the ARC prevent you from doing something really important : repairing it and move freely inside your base. Because, yes, sometimes e-fences block entire parts of your base when the ARC is in a bad spot. It cause all sorts of problems, so stop doing it, it's not about elitism, it's about not wasting valuable ressources. When we have to gather ressources, I often play operator and after a run with small groups to the farest ressource collection point, risking my life to bring back two canisters, I'm very pissed to see clowns wasting my 4000 ressources (2 canisters) to build nonsense.

When I see that kind of things, I just stop my canister's run and I let others gather ressources themselves, so they'll learn the value of it and maybe they'll be less eager to waste it the next time ...

[Netaris]

Originally posted by 🎇TYPHOON🎇:

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Now take your elitist base construction techniques somewhere else.

In all the games I played yet my team only lost when people like you are participating.

Trying to do things good (not even optimized, just good) = "you're an elitist". The reality is these peoples don't care about other's efforts and want their fun without bringing anything to the team. That's why I ignore their insults, it's irrelevant, just an excuse for their lazyness.