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Faray Apr 7, 2024 @ 7:12pm
Age of Singularity is extremely disappointing.
For an end game crisis era I expected more, but this was kinda pathetic. First off the rogue AI isn’t much of a threat at all if you’ve been building military. Age of revoultions was scarier than this and that's a normal age.

Second, winning is extremely quick, research the AI core tech and build 10 of them. No fighting required, just a lot of specialist…. Which isn’t even that many since you can upgrade the super computers (Which you need to trigger this crisis)

All the EMP weapons, AI alignment is meaningless cause of how quick and easy it is to win in this age.

I did this on GM, and it was faster for me to win on transcendence on adept (Granted that was my first game, but still)

I hope this gets balanced to be more interesting, maybe make it so you have to fight the rogue AI to get what you need to make the cores, or make more techs required.
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Draconianknight Apr 8, 2024 @ 4:18pm 
Well, that sucks. However I am still trying to figure out how to build the supper computers
alan_buchbach Apr 8, 2024 @ 10:18pm 
Originally posted by Draconianknight:
Well, that sucks. However I am still trying to figure out how to build the supper computers

They are tile improvements that use specialists. If you find your specialists capping in earlier ages, you can build laboratories with them and upgrade the labs later to super computers - but only if specifically chasing the age of singularity. Otherwise, leave them as laboratories.
The Doctor Apr 9, 2024 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by Faray:
For an end game crisis era I expected more, but this was kinda pathetic. First off the rogue AI isn’t much of a threat at all if you’ve been building military. Age of revoultions was scarier than this and that's a normal age.

Second, winning is extremely quick, research the AI core tech and build 10 of them. No fighting required, just a lot of specialist…. Which isn’t even that many since you can upgrade the super computers (Which you need to trigger this crisis)

All the EMP weapons, AI alignment is meaningless cause of how quick and easy it is to win in this age.

I did this on GM, and it was faster for me to win on transcendence on adept (Granted that was my first game, but still)

I hope this gets balanced to be more interesting, maybe make it so you have to fight the rogue AI to get what you need to make the cores, or make more techs required.
You were well prepared for it and so it was trivial, just as the Age of Revolutions is trivial if you have a big military. If you don't have a big military or are out of place, it's probably a tad more challenging.

Could it do with beefing up? Absolutely, but be prepared for folks to complain about how it needs to be nerfed just like they are with the AoR. Besides, I am usually more keen to get the current game finished and start afresh with the insights I gained from this playthough. But who doesn't like a good crisis? ;)
archonsod Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by The Doctor:
You were well prepared for it and so it was trivial, just as the Age of Revolutions is trivial if you have a big military. If you don't have a big military or are out of place, it's probably a tad more challenging.
Pretty much this. Any crisis age is trivial if you either know what's coming and are ready for it, or just happen to be in the right position.
The only real problem I've found is the AI doesn't seem to really participate in crisis and particularly victory ages. It makes them a bit too easy, since assuming you've prepared the only risk you run is that the AI will age up before you complete the conditions; I've never seen it deliberately try to challenge for the win.
Ryu.82 Apr 9, 2024 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by The Doctor:
You were well prepared for it and so it was trivial, just as the Age of Revolutions is trivial if you have a big military. If you don't have a big military or are out of place, it's probably a tad more challenging.

Could it do with beefing up? Absolutely, but be prepared for folks to complain about how it needs to be nerfed just like they are with the AoR. Besides, I am usually more keen to get the current game finished and start afresh with the insights I gained from this playthough. But who doesn't like a good crisis? ;)

You are right about that. I just entered the age for the first time, not knowing what was coming at all, and I didn´t manage to get the win conditions of the age done in time. :steamsad:
Well, I would have, but at some point suddenly all other nations were destroyed in one turn, I guess the AI wasn´t able to deal with the special mechanics of this age. So instead of the victory from this age, I just got the lone survivor victory.

But depending on how you play and what kind of map you have, the age can have some challenges. I played peacefully on an islands map for example, and getting the few armies I had to the places they were needed was taking time, enough time to loose a number of unprotected towns.
And then there was the problem to find places to build the damn things, the older regions were full, and the newer ones just lost space due to the destroyed towns. And since I wasn´t sure if you just had to build the cores, or if they had to be operational, or at least needed supply with power, I was building them one at a time, making sure the regions I build them in had enough power to supply them.
And then the AIs died on me and it was over. Meh.

I do agree with @Faray though, it is a little disapointing that you just have to build ten buildings to win that victory, it is a little too simple compared to other victories I think. Would have been better if it would have been somewhat like the age of departure. For example, if the goal where to upload a program, and for that the cores had to be operational and would give 1 point per turn per working core and you need 100 points, or something like that.

Of course, the main problem of this age is that the AI doesn´t seem to be able to deal with it. I think that that is the first thing the Devs need to adress, because changing the conditions and making it a bit more challenging would be nice and good, but it wouldn´t help if it then becomes impossible to win this age with the intended victory, because the AI would always get wiped out before that is even possible.
Last edited by Ryu.82; Apr 9, 2024 @ 9:11am
Gros Shadok May 4, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
What I've found dissappointing is that I instawin the 1st turn of the singularity era, it seems because the other nations are too low tech level so the AI instant kill them... so I win because I'm the last player alive.
I hope the Devs will change that and let us see the singularity units (not sure how they are called or what they look like since I've never encountered them) appear all over the Word and kill our low tech rivals in a few turns (not instantanly) so we could at least see what they look like and how they spread and kill the other nations.
Also, it would be better if the thing that needs to be produced to kill the singularites can only start to be produced once you are in the Singularity era, not before. Or else you can also instawin by producing more than what is needed before the Singularity era start.
alan_buchbach May 14, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Gros Shadok:
What I've found dissappointing is that I instawin the 1st turn of the singularity era, it seems because the other nations are too low tech level so the AI instant kill them... so I win because I'm the last player alive.
I hope the Devs will change that and let us see the singularity units (not sure how they are called or what they look like since I've never encountered them) appear all over the Word and kill our low tech rivals in a few turns (not instantanly) so we could at least see what they look like and how they spread and kill the other nations.
Also, it would be better if the thing that needs to be produced to kill the singularites can only start to be produced once you are in the Singularity era, not before. Or else you can also instawin by producing more than what is needed before the Singularity era start.

If the other nations are more than 2 ages behind you (hence being wiped out by singularity) then you've already won at that point.

If you are chasing the achievement for the winning by singularity instead of the default domination win, then you can get one of your regions to rebel and form a revolutionary nation which has your tech level etc. Just guard that nation until you beat the Singularity - which is not by eliminating all their factories / robots. It is by researching and building the personality firewalls.
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Date Posted: Apr 7, 2024 @ 7:12pm
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