Performance

[Sir Drachenstein]

how is it even possible for such an ugly game to have so bad performance?
i play Baldurs gate 3 on ultra without a problem.
but millenia is 10fps average IN MY OWN TURNS and 20fps max. in medium settings. and like 17fps on low (and low looks like a game from 2000)
i am in round 240 and age of revolution, and thsi performance just fells so bad i cant keep playing without getting (even more) insane

ps. civ never drops below 60fps soo seriously whats the preoblems???

[The Konrad]

Todd Howard has your answer right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH-_gSl-Ryg

Or they did it like Creative Assembly's Total War series,
where the 'extreme' settings are designed for future GPUs.
https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-attila-on-extreme-settings-is-designed-for-future-gpus/


And believe me I probably have beefier hardware than you and it still runs like ass for me, worst of offender are the resource tile displays, if I activate them the game turns into a slide show.

[Elhoim]

Yeah, the game has a huge drawcalls problem, and missing proper model LODs.

[taomastercu]

Originally posted by Sir Drachenstein:

how is it even possible for such an ugly game to have so bad performance?
i play Baldurs gate 3 on ultra without a problem.
but millenia is 10fps average IN MY OWN TURNS and 20fps max. in medium settings. and like 17fps on low (and low looks like a game from 2000)
i am in round 240 and age of revolution, and thsi performance just fells so bad i cant keep playing without getting (even more) insane

ps. civ never drops below 60fps soo seriously whats the preoblems???

While Millennia *does* have performance issues I'm not sure what the point of bringing up Baldur's Gate 3 is. Totally different genre on a different engine that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make.

The Civ comparison is much more reasonable.

[Elhoim]

I think an apt comparison is Old World, made by a similarly small team. They did have a lot of performance issues as well, and it came down the issues outlined above (bad handling of drawcalls and LOD).

No idea which engine they are using for this game, but it's really struggling with very simple graphics.

[Sir Drachenstein]

Originally posted by taomastercu:

While Millennia *does* have performance issues I'm not sure what the point of bringing up Baldur's Gate 3 is. Totally different genre on a different engine that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make.

ive only choosen that to "prove" that i dont have a compleate potato-pc. ofc its not a good comparison, but i've choosen it because in bg3 i think you "get more UX for the harware"

[taomastercu]

Originally posted by Elhoim:

I think an apt comparison is Old World, made by a similarly small team. They did have a lot of performance issues as well, and it came down the issues outlined above (bad handling of drawcalls and LOD).

No idea which engine they are using for this game, but it's really struggling with very simple graphics.

Millennia is developed in Unity. The engine famous for terrible performance.

[Elhoim]

Originally posted by taomastercu:

Originally posted by Elhoim:

I think an apt comparison is Old World, made by a similarly small team. They did have a lot of performance issues as well, and it came down the issues outlined above (bad handling of drawcalls and LOD).

No idea which engine they are using for this game, but it's really struggling with very simple graphics.

Millennia is developed in Unity. The engine famous for terrible performance.

Well, Old World was developed in Unity, and they managed to fix the performance issues. And Humankind is on Unity as well and runs silky smooth.

Now, UE has A LOT more tools for optimization (LoDs creation in engine, excellent mesh instances by default), so it's easier to make good running game there, but Unity can run well too if the proper work is done.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by Sir Drachenstein:

ive only choosen that to "prove" that i dont have a compleate potato-pc.

Problem of course being BG3 will run well on a relative potato with a good graphics card; Millenia will run well on a relative potato with a good CPU.

[TehJumpingJawa]

Originally posted by archonsod:

Originally posted by Sir Drachenstein:

ive only choosen that to "prove" that i dont have a compleate potato-pc.

Millenia will run well on a relative potato with a good CPU.

In which alternate future are you playing Millennia?!? 'cos in this one, it runs like ass on everything.

[wm.j.olson]

The graphics, especially in rendering combat, are several generations behind. Performance remains a problem, but improvements there don't help with ugly graphics.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by TehJumpingJawa:

In which alternate future are you playing Millennia?!? 'cos in this one, it runs like ass on everything.

Works fine for me.

[The Konrad]

"fine"?
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

You are probably 1% area of the bell curve where the game is still playable without much slowdown.

[iatus]

After the 7th age the game performance takes quite a hit.

Don't know why. Maybe something with the barbarian issue, all unexplored land spaces filled to the brim of them.

[chaney]

I upgraded RAM and don't keep other things running at the same time. No problems with a less than stellar setup. I'm sure it depends on a lot of things, but the RAM upgrade took me from laggy in early game to no problems late game. I went from 16 to 64, probably overkill, and keep other things from competing for the RAM. The 16 GB spec is, I suspect, too low.

Edit: just looked, 8 GB required, 16 recommended. That seems too low.

[iatus]

Originally posted by chaney:

I upgraded RAM and don't keep other things running at the same time. No problems with a less than stellar setup. I'm sure it depends on a lot of things, but the RAM upgrade took me from laggy in early game to no problems late game. I went from 16 to 64, probably overkill, and keep other things from competing for the RAM. The 16 GB spec is, I suspect, too low.

Edit: just looked, 8 GB required, 16 recommended. That seems too low.

Hard to believe that this game actually requires that amount of RAM. Not that it is a bad game, I had a good time with it, but I don't see where is the performance bottleneck.