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Suisight Apr 3, 2024 @ 12:55pm
Too few sanitation - improvements in some timelines?
So I am in a playthrough in which i got to Age of Aether (and NOT to Age of Alchemy). In the latter, Panacae solves sanitation for the rest of the game. But in the former, I am stuck with the trash heap improvement as the best option ... while researching the age of rocketry.

Really, there is no progress in terms of waste disposal before rocketry? I feel there should be an upgrade along the way.
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low_apm Apr 3, 2024 @ 1:30pm 
i guess trash heaps are still used to this day, so that actually makes sense. Easy fix: make existing sanitation improvements a little better at what they do with each age
Prown Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
I think the core problem with sanitation is there is no production chains to it

Trash is trash, you can get new buildings that give you better sanitation, but at the end of the day it's just bland.

I mean it's obvious, you can't turn garbage into a superior and better form of garbage. Maybe if they add recycling centres that actually recycle or something.

But right now it's I think the only item that affects city growth that can't be transformed or put into a production chain to be more efficient.
Last edited by Prown; Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:17pm
Cythil Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:38pm 
I do not think it is to much of a issue. I am running the same sort of progression now and yes. Trashheap is the best improvment I have. But there some buildings that help out to. What I lose for inefficent trash heaps is really space for other development. Since you do not need workers on them. It is something you can handle. And I think each age should have there advantages and disadvantages. It makes for more replayablity in my books. And also add a bit of startigic thinking to your age advancement since you could aim for certain ages to benefit you the most.

Edit: For example. Skipping Age of Alchemy might be a good move if you feel you have plenty of space for trashheaps.
Last edited by Cythil; Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:39pm
Suisight Apr 3, 2024 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Cythil:
I do not think it is to much of a issue. I am running the same sort of progression now and yes. Trashheap is the best improvment I have. But there some buildings that help out to. What I lose for inefficent trash heaps is really space for other development. Since you do not need workers on them. It is something you can handle. And I think each age should have there advantages and disadvantages. It makes for more replayablity in my books. And also add a bit of startigic thinking to your age advancement since you could aim for certain ages to benefit you the most.

Edit: For example. Skipping Age of Alchemy might be a good move if you feel you have plenty of space for trashheaps.

I can appreciate the argument of a strategic aspect, but one point I wanted to make: Alchemy is so much better than Aether right now. First, because of Panacea which you get boring gold (i.e. exploration power). Second, Aether has several other problems with improvements (need specialists early, will ALWAYS need aether).

But especially here, regardless of the ages (this just pointed me to the issue because sanitation never before was an issue for me): Rocketry gives you recycling centers but it feels there is just one upgrade missing in-between - with rocketry, sanitation is no issue anymore (also due to suburbs). So an upgrade, something like "modern landfill" would makle the progression much smoother, I feel.
Exemplar Apr 3, 2024 @ 8:34pm 
i keep my cities pruned pretty tightly so they're not growing so quickly that the demand for whatever doesn't outweigh what i can provide.
Suisight Apr 4, 2024 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Exemplar:
i keep my cities pruned pretty tightly so they're not growing so quickly that the demand for whatever doesn't outweigh what i can provide.
I guess having smaller cities with thus less needs should be totally viable. I myself tend and like to have the best and biggest cities around - and I hope this is a playstyle that is in the possibility spectrum in the design vision of the developers.

But either way, I think there are several upgrade lines that could be smoothed out - sanitation improvements just being one of them that really stuck out to me.
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Date Posted: Apr 3, 2024 @ 12:55pm
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