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I guess I just have to repeat what I just wrote in the other thread then.
Why? Why does it matter? How many times have people not screamed "gamergate" or "game journalist shills" when they have given positive reviews of a game. All that matters is if you will have fun playing it. If you enjoy it, or not. Sure, if it financially is doing bad, then support will be less, fewer DLC's (which might not be a bad thing) and we might never get a Millennia 2, but you can still enjoy what you got (if you do enjoy it after release, that is).
You don't chose more important things in your life from what others think about it, I hope. Like your work, a partner etc (I find it sad when people do and live their entire lives by what others thinks). So why should a minor decision and a fairly small investment, like what game to play (even if we do live in a rough financial period), or what movie to watch, be affected or dictated by anyone else? if YOU do not enjoy something then by all means don't do it. I understand if YOU don't play a game YOU don't like, but if YOU enjoy it and like it, then why not just do it? This is YOUR life. YOUR money. YOUR time, so why not just do what YOU like and want (within the law of course)?
Of course, with people close to you, I undersatnd if you take into consideration what they too think before making a decison (if they have your best interest in mind and you theirs). The rest is more or less irrelevant, in my opinion. Especially what some game journalists or people in here think about it, if they are positive or negative about a game. If I like, or do not like a game, a movie, or this game, also ought to be irrelevant for YOUR decision.
Still, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but yes, when I read some comments, the image I get in my head is "Good, good, let the hate flow through you".
Play games you enjoy and have fun.
Something about an upcoming game release does this to people on Steam. If the game has more than a thousand people paying attention, at least two or three people will come in determined to convince every single reader that the game is garbage that shouldn't be bought.
Of course, that's not speaking of the many who just give their own reason for not buying and move on. I'm talking specifically about those who make it their mission for anywhere from six hours to six months to deprive a game of even a single sale. I'm not sure what possesses folk to carry such drive for something so inconsequential.
i will have fun, the game is not perfect, but good enough for me who already finished so many game in Civ6, humankind, old world, master of magic remake !
I've found my people! A fellow RoTK enthusiast appears!
Science ruishing is not an issue for me either. If I want to control the ages, I need to be the one setting the pace and that's fine by me. Otherwise, it should lead to some rather interesting playthroughs when the AI gets to choose an age I don't want. That's FUN for me, adapting my plan to meet the emerging world.
I think there is real value in reading these reviews even if you don't trust them. It's fairly obvious that the IGN reviewer played the game all the way through and didn't like it and is able to articulate why she didn't like it so if her concerns resonate with yours, it's useful.
From what I've seen and experienced with the demo, this is a very niche civ-like game. It absolutely is NOT a Civ killer and I hope nobody is fooled into thinking it is by streamers trying to get views to increase their ad revenue stream.
Well said on all points. In particular, I want to note that while I haven't watched much, the two Youtubers I did watch gameplay from never really lead me to believe it'd be a Civ killer and I certainly never got the impression either.
What's got me excited is that it scratches my particular itches:
- It favors playing tall in a slower-paced game that's more about what you're building than how much of the map you control.
- It places emphasis on letting me take the reins and dictate what my people will be like. (Complete with allowing us to name our civilization, if one video I saw was any indication...?) Rather than picking a civ and hoping I land on a part of the map that lets me take advantage of their bonuses, I get to craft my bonuses according to my surroundings, as civilizations actually did.
- It honestly plays more like a grand strategy game than a tactical boardgame.
In short, the way I've played Civ and Humankind and suffered for it for so long? This game is made to be played that way, and that's why it's grabbed my interest. Nothing to do with it being a AAA powerhouse that's gonna wrest the crown from Firaxis' slumbering fingers. But, that being the case, it's clear to me that it's a niche title. I'm a very odd kind of 4X gamer and I never expected the game would have the kind of broad appeal that gets good reviews.
To me it often seems like some enjoy being miserable, or are at least stuck in a mindset that makes them miserable. Often punishing themselves more than others, without even realizing it. Then just because they are miserable, they of course try to make everyone else miserable too. Blaming everyone else for their misery. It might be that in their minds they think their actions will change something, to make their own lifes less miserable, what they complain about will change and things become more enjoyable. It's posible that in some cases it will be that way, but more often all it does is dig themselves deeper into a depression and dragging others along with them down that dark path. Since in their minds it's everyone elses fault that they and their lives are lackluster.
In other cases, some are also not holding up their own standards and principles in general terms. They practice double standards and only have principles when it cost them very little to sacrifice. They think everyone should sacrifice what they have no problems sacrificing, while at the same time not have the same standards and sacrifice things which would be harder for them to sacrifice. Like cherry picking one company for their pracatices. Simply because the products that company releases isn't hard for them to be without. While at the same time leave other companies alone which do exactly the same. Keep buying those companies products, since they release products they have a harder time to be without. It's easy to sacrifice and be without something you didn't really want in the first place anyway. It's easy to be a keyboard warrior when it costs very little to be one.
There are of course also those that go all the way. That hold all companies to the same standards and sacrifice all products from all companies that have similar business practices, but those people are very few and far inbetween. Double standards is much more common.
I mean, IGN gave Humankind a 7/10, and I can tell you after almost 300 hours in Humankind, that *just* from playing 30 hours of Millenia demo, if Humankind deserves that 7 from IGN, then IGN owes MIllenia a 10, because Humankind is the most broken, feature-incomplete, terribly paced, mish-mash of a civ-like game I have ever played. Oh, and Millenia demo was (with optimization problems) still better optimized than Humankind was nine months after launch. Do I hate Humankind and think it's a garbage fire of game that will never be fixed, yes, yes I do. But I don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees with me, whatever---do you, and play what you like.
My point is that "professional" industry reviews are just the opinion of some schlub who has his/her own biases, we know for a fact that many of those reviews are influenced by money, and even if they're not, they're still just the preferences of one person about what makes a game fun and worth buying---why would I trust one other person's opinion?
Even Steam aggregate scores are sometimes very different than my personal take on a game.
I think there's real value in playing a demo, and watching a few good "let's play" videos to see if a game is worth a person's time and money. These days, "professional" game reviews are worth the same as professional movie reviews----nothing.
So compared to other genres, I still like this genre better.
To be honest, I've already started getting bored with MIllennia just by watching play videos on Youtube though.