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natknut Feb 10, 2024 @ 7:24pm
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No common era please.
It's utterly disrespectful to history, and screams of politics over quality. Atleast give us the option to turn that junk off.

Edit due to vindication. This discussion was taken down as spam, took a few tries but I finally found support agent that wasn't just choosing sides.
Last edited by natknut; Feb 21, 2024 @ 1:31am
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PengoPaddy Feb 10, 2024 @ 7:42pm 
Is this a real post?

Why are bots on Steam forums?
shane Feb 11, 2024 @ 10:50am 
I guess it is too much to ask for a history game to even get this right.
Common era is the standard method for referring to years in large part because much of the world doesn't use AD. The muslim world doesn't use it and much of Asia use their own separate calendar.

Perhaps it's time for you to grow up though.
Bagnana Feb 11, 2024 @ 12:41pm 
Its just a standard of measurement for years, like how Metric is standard for scientific work.
Whakahoatanga Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Common era is the standard way to measure time in history. There's other alternatives like Before Present (BP) with a certain reference date to it.

Alternativelly, you could use BH/AH (Before/After Hijrah) or the Maya calendar, though those are only used in their relative context. Probably missing out on some other ways of measuring times relative to a certain important point in history to their relative cultures.

Most of the world doesn't use BC/AD as they're not christian. BCE/CE has also the advantage of being religiously neutral.
mbomb007 Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:15pm 
You can change the letters, but the reference point of BCE/CE is still the birth of Jesus Christ.
DNLH Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Whakahoatanga:
Most of the world doesn't use BC/AD as they're not christian. BCE/CE has also the advantage of being religiously neutral.
You don't even need to be non-Christian for that, in Polish the common phrase used in most writing translates to 'before our era' and 'our era', which is why I'm always confused when the BCE/CE and BC/AD debate comes out, even if the root idea itself is 'our (Christian) era'. Still, 'Before Christ' and 'After Christ' would be used mostly to give the 'ye olde times' flare or in explicitly Catholic sources.

I don't even get the whole discussion, it's not like BCE/CE is a fresh invention, it's been interchangeably in use for over a century at this point.
Whakahoatanga Feb 11, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by mbomb007:
You can change the letters, but the reference point of BCE/CE is still the birth of Jesus Christ.

Ironically, Jesus of Nazareth is born before the year 0 CE. Most biblical scholars and ancient scholars believe that his birth date is around the year 6-4 BCE.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesus#ref222988
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natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by That unnervingly happy turtle.:
Common era is the standard method for referring to years in large part because much of the world doesn't use AD. The muslim world doesn't use it and much of Asia use their own separate calendar.

Perhaps it's time for you to grow up though.
Oh please it's not standard at all, only certain groups recognize it out of childish notions of progressive nonesense. By that reasoning Thursday should also be removed for being religious.
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Bagnana:
Its just a standard of measurement for years, like how Metric is standard for scientific work.
Just because a minority says it's standard doesn't mean it is.
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Whakahoatanga:
Common era is the standard way to measure time in history. There's other alternatives like Before Present (BP) with a certain reference date to it.

Alternativelly, you could use BH/AH (Before/After Hijrah) or the Maya calendar, though those are only used in their relative context. Probably missing out on some other ways of measuring times relative to a certain important point in history to their relative cultures.

Most of the world doesn't use BC/AD as they're not christian. BCE/CE has also the advantage of being religiously neutral.
Most of the world doesn't use common era either, and believe it or not most of the world is Christian, it's literally a dominant religion.

By the way, if common era is religiously neutral, why is every other aspect of it still religious? All they did was change some letters, the literal entire calendar is still based on gods, festivals, and the birth of Christ. Even the days of the week are religious.
Last edited by natknut; Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:16pm
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by DNLH:
Originally posted by Whakahoatanga:
Most of the world doesn't use BC/AD as they're not christian. BCE/CE has also the advantage of being religiously neutral.
You don't even need to be non-Christian for that, in Polish the common phrase used in most writing translates to 'before our era' and 'our era', which is why I'm always confused when the BCE/CE and BC/AD debate comes out, even if the root idea itself is 'our (Christian) era'. Still, 'Before Christ' and 'After Christ' would be used mostly to give the 'ye olde times' flare or in explicitly Catholic sources.

I don't even get the whole discussion, it's not like BCE/CE is a fresh invention, it's been interchangeably in use for over a century at this point.
It's because there's a screaming minority of crying children who demand everything be done thejr way to remove religion, despite the fact that the rest of the calendar is still based in religion.
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Whakahoatanga:
Originally posted by mbomb007:
You can change the letters, but the reference point of BCE/CE is still the birth of Jesus Christ.

Ironically, Jesus of Nazareth is born before the year 0 CE. Most biblical scholars and ancient scholars believe that his birth date is around the year 6-4 BCE.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesus#ref222988
Yeah that's ancient record keeping for you, not the most accurate.
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by mbomb007:
You can change the letters, but the reference point of BCE/CE is still the birth of Jesus Christ.
It's almost as if common era is pointless
natknut Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by shane:
I guess it is too much to ask for a history game to even get this right.
Yep
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