The Pale Beyond

The Pale Beyond

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Spoiler question.
Don't read if you haven't played through, I'm just asking something I'm curious about.

I put the darn spoiler thing on, but when I hover over it in the discussions it shows the text :(.










Does Kasha need to drop the camera for me to save both her and Kurt?
Last edited by [GRVTS]Fat Bastard; Feb 26, 2023 @ 12:51pm
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Ankel.Ssj Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
yes, but I suspect that if you dont let Kurt do the navigation it wont have a second one..
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
yes, but I suspect that if you dont let Kurt do the navigation it wont have a second one..

What does that mean?
Dr. Rybotnik Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:27pm 
Perhaps I've misunderstood the question, but you CAN save "it" w/o negative consequences. I do not know what the conditions are though.
Originally posted by Dr. Rybotnik:
Perhaps I've misunderstood the question, but you CAN save "it" w/o negative consequences. I do not know what the conditions are though.

The camera? I really hope I can save it and kurt.
Ankel.Ssj Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
yes, but I suspect that if you dont let Kurt do the navigation it wont have a second one..

What does that mean?
I didnt want to spoiler it, I meant maybe if you dont make Kurt "stress" too much for leading the boats, maybe he wont have a second hearth attack on the rope?
Last edited by Ankel.Ssj; Feb 26, 2023 @ 1:48pm
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

What does that mean?
I didnt want to spoiler it, I meant maybe if you dont make Kurt "stress" too much for leading the boats, maybe he wont have a second hearth attack on the rope?

Ah, ok. Yeah I don't make Kurt navigate the boats anyways.
Ankel.Ssj Feb 26, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
I didnt want to spoiler it, I meant maybe if you dont make Kurt "stress" too much for leading the boats, maybe he wont have a second hearth attack on the rope?

Ah, ok. Yeah I don't make Kurt navigate the boats anyways.
ok so you tried already to not make him tired? then no idea how to save him on the rope.. the only thing I could think about is on the first act where you meet Kesha on the boat is obvious she will fall off eventually
Last edited by Ankel.Ssj; Feb 26, 2023 @ 2:03pm
Majima Kun Feb 26, 2023 @ 2:18pm 
The camera checks two things, whether Kurt is still the head navigator, and the loyalty of your overall crew. The first will prevent him dying from a heart attack, the latter will ensure both Kasha and Kurt gets pulled up with no sweat and with the camera intact

Edit: The latter could also be a check of living crew members, but since having crews die will dramatically reduce loyalty of their specialists so it still tracks with loyalty at the end of the day.
Last edited by Majima Kun; Feb 26, 2023 @ 2:22pm
Federok Feb 26, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
No, she didnt in my playthrough and both him and the camera cameback (kasha too obviously)

what i can tell its that i followed the doctors advice regarding his health.
i sided with Kasha during their argument (i dont know if its relevant)
I treathen to cut the rope if Kurt dared to sacrifce himself.
I encourage him be telling him to not leave me alone with Templeton
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Ah, ok. Yeah I don't make Kurt navigate the boats anyways.
ok so you tried already to not make him tired? then no idea how to save him on the rope.. the only thing I could think about is on the first act where you meet Kesha on the boat is obvious she will fall off eventually

No. I mean I never made him navigate the boats, so I felt safe. I never actually tried in my last playthrough to save the camera.
Ankel.Ssj Feb 26, 2023 @ 3:15pm 
btw... at the end... What the camera is For? it doesnt change the finales
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
btw... at the end... What the camera is For? it doesnt change the finales
Proof that we're certified badasses.
Polaris™ Feb 27, 2023 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Ankel.Ssj:
btw... at the end... What the camera is For? it doesnt change the finales

There is an achievement called "A Thousand Words" for having Kasha's camera survive the expedition. Additionally, the research that Kasha collects in her camera from interviews will be useful in one of the endings, but I won't spoil it for you unless you want me to.
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