Anyone Feel Disappointed?

[viperwolf02]

Anyone else feel disappointed? This is literally a copy and paste with a patch. Maybe I was expecting to much? I just feel the price point for this is not equal to the content. They should of released this as a patch IMO. What do you guys think?

[Rich]

it was pretty well known this is a between generations game ill get my money worth and get the next one to see what they can do .

[viperwolf02]

Originally posted by Richifornia:

it was pretty well known this is a between generations game ill get my money worth and get the next one to see what they can do .

Im sure most of the player base will disagree with me. Im also looking forward to the next gen version of Nascar Heat. I hope it turns out great!

[Rich]

Originally posted by viperwolf02:

Originally posted by Richifornia:

it was pretty well known this is a between generations game ill get my money worth and get the next one to see what they can do .

Im sure most of the player base will disagree with me. Im also looking forward to the next gen version of Nascar Heat. I hope it turns out great!

same hopefully they bring it next year and dont make me eat my words

[Chevy-Man]

Very much so, it's NH4 with more bugs, 2 new views and a Test Session mode for full retail $$$ worst thing about it is, the way they lied to us about DNFs from day 1, they even removed it off the features list on the official Nascar Heat website a couple of weeks back. Beyond ridiculous.

[Nats]

Probably just needs some bedding in. But its supposed to also look better, have better wheel control, AI supposed to drive better etc - see any of that?

[MrRoadWarrior]

lots and lots of bugs. What happened guys???

[LMS|Fivefifty]

Originally posted by Chevy-Man:

Very much so, it's NH4 with more bugs, 2 new views and a Test Session mode for full retail $$$ worst thing about it is, the way they lied to us about DNFs from day 1, they even removed it off the features list on the official Nascar Heat website a couple of weeks back. Beyond ridiculous.

what the new views? Is one of them cockpit with no wheel and hands?

[Chevy-Man]

Originally posted by FIVEFIFTY:

Originally posted by Chevy-Man:

Very much so, it's NH4 with more bugs, 2 new views and a Test Session mode for full retail $$$ worst thing about it is, the way they lied to us about DNFs from day 1, they even removed it off the features list on the official Nascar Heat website a couple of weeks back. Beyond ridiculous.

what the new views? Is one of them cockpit with no wheel and hands?

That is not exactly a new view, but now an option, yes. I was speaking of the far chase cam and the "roof" cam, if you can call that a roof cam... it's more like a slightly higher mounted hood cam.

[dazzleme]

I'll give them until the 10th, already one patch that hit today. No @nats, I don't see any of that.

[Mark Kroeger]

So far, very disappointed. Can't access the menu. No button mapping. Can't change the views to in-car etc.

[CrusaderKiller]

yeah, like your parents tell you that you're getting a mega gaming computer for Christmas and then you open a Commadore 64 LOL.

[timahoo]

The pitch for NH5 did not seem to bring much new, also comparing screens they seemed almost identical to NH4. I bought NH4 a couple weeks back in the sales for a steal, I'm happy with that for now. NH5's price would mean I would have to play at least 100 hours to get my value for money, that's crazy for my schedule. The only thing I would have given serious consideration for would be much improved wheel support with new driving physics and force feedback, and some new aspects like actual pitting or somewhere new you can take the car like the garage, or maybe track evolution & more diverse weather

[Nats]

Quick review after having playing Heat 5 for a couple of hours (all I can do and still refund). Overall I feel it was a lot of fun, but practically nothing new over Heat 4.

There are several commands that require a controller that I couldn't use because I was using a wheel, things like rotating the face of your driver and accessing the options screen from a menu screen. Nothing very crucial - you can access options from the race menu instead - but still very sloppy and amateurish to see that sort of thing in an expensive game like this. I could almost excuse that sort of thing in a £10 title.

As for graphics I couldn't tell any difference between 4 and 5 at all. I did seem to get the very odd stutter at highest levels of graphics but nothing different from 4, and my computer is getting old - although I can run PCars2 on high fairly settings very smoothly and this game doesn't look half as good as PCars2. Some of the car graphics in the menus of 5 are rather low res and indistinct, I didn't think they looked very good. No weather, no apparent lighting changes, no clouds moving, no sun moving, completely static skybox.

I also thought the graphics were sort of strange. On many of the tracks there is a lot of strong ambient occlusion going on when they are meant to be in direct sunlight - it looks a bit strange and quite unrealistic. I also didn't like the brownish tracks like Daytona which in reality is concrete grey. I think Pcars2's Daytona looks much more accurate. And this is meant to be a game specialising in Nascar tracks, you would think they could get the tracks correct.

How Daytona should look, from PCars 2, no daft AO in strong sunlight: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2156337968

No evidence of any changes to AI driving but then I dont have enough experience with Heat 4 to be able to tell that. I managed to keep up with the AI cars at 105% (max difficulty) and reckon after a while I would be beating them fairly easily at that level. I played at 90% to start off with, with no assists at all, at expert difficulty and I was beating the AI easily. I've never played these games before this week and max time spent on Heat 4 and 5 is 4 hrs. So yeah thats not a good sign really. In comparison I play PCars2 on 80% difficulty and I often struggle a lot at that. This game seems easy by comparison

Pitting was exactly the same as 4.

Regarding wheel control I did get my GT Driving Force wheel mapped ok, the control on road courses is still not great rather lacklustre, on ovals etc its fine. But I don't think its anything different from 4 at all. I couldn't manage to look backward at all using my wheel controls, the same as in Heat 4. I reckon its probably another 'controller only' command?

Very little sense of force feedback at all same at heat 4 in fact. No track undulations, no bumps, very little feeling of travelling at speed. You can feel the grass and the gravity on the corners that's about it. When you try Daytona on PCars2 it is a frightening experience where you are fighting to stay in control over bumps etc, nothing like this game.

Sound was ok didnt really notice much difference to Heat 4. You can hear the wind 'draft' when you are behind a car, that's quite useful. Dont know whether that is in Heat 4 as well. That's all I noticed really. Didnt hear any sound for the car skidding, I am sure that's in Heat 4 is it? I couldn't hear it in this game.

I didnt use the solo testing or extra stats so cant comment on those but they dont really interest me much. Didnt see any evidence of DNF at all.

[jack.anderson19]

Absolutely . I'm waiting for the next gen version too . Tired of copy paste .

[Vlad Tepes]

Thanks everyone for these detailed reviews. I understand it's early and sometimes bugs can be worked out, but really for me I wanted to learn if it was worth dropping NH4 to get this and it appears to not be.