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Micha28 (vr) Mar 8, 2024 @ 8:05am
Only black screen when starting Hubris with Meta quest 3
I enabled OpenXR. But no change. with my old HP Reverb G2 it worked fine. But with Quest 3 never. Someone an idea?
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Cyborn  [developer] Mar 11, 2024 @ 1:53am 
Hi Micha,

This can have many reasons.

Can you for now first give us all of your PC specs and if you play wired or wireless? If you play wireless which system (VD, Steam Wireless, Oculus wireles, .. )are you using?

Kind regards,

Koen
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Micha28 (vr) Mar 11, 2024 @ 9:36am 
Hi, PC Specs are: AMD5800 X3D, Nvidia 4090, Asus TUF 550 Gaming Mainboard, 32 GB Ram, 2 M2 SSDs, Meta Quest 3 wired, Hope that helps.
Last edited by Micha28 (vr); Mar 11, 2024 @ 9:41am
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Cyborn  [developer] Mar 12, 2024 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by Micha28 (vr):
Hi, PC Specs are: AMD5800 X3D, Nvidia 4090, Asus TUF 550 Gaming Mainboard, 32 GB Ram, 2 M2 SSDs, Meta Quest 3 wired, Hope that helps.

What windows version are you using?

I would firstly make sure all your drivers are up to date.
Secondly try to do a repair steam files.

If that does not work can you reach out to me on our discord, my name there is Koen.

I will instruct you to download dev build which generates detailed logs, we can use that to try and pinpoint your problem.

Kind regards,

Koen
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Micha28 (vr) Mar 12, 2024 @ 1:48pm 
Im using Windws 11 uptodate.
All other drivers are also uptodate.
will try to connect you at discord
But i dont knew discord, so you must say whatto do
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samain35 Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
I was the same coming from Reverb G2 to Quest 3. I couldn't get it to work until I downloaded Steam VR and that seemed to do the trick. Whether that fixed it or it was just a fluke, I don't know...
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Cyborn  [developer] Mar 21, 2024 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by samain35:
I was the same coming from Reverb G2 to Quest 3. I couldn't get it to work until I downloaded Steam VR and that seemed to do the trick. Whether that fixed it or it was just a fluke, I don't know...

If you were using a reverb before your open xr runtime was probably set to windows, if you would have reset it to oculus thne that should have done the trick.
Installing stram vr put the runtime to steam and then together eith using steamOpenVR your game can noe actually launch.
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Kyo Mar 25, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Same here with Pico 4 on Virtual Desktop.
Some months ago there was no such problem, but now if I start Hubris in OpenXR runtime (Steam > library > Hubris > Play > openXR) it only shows black screen with sound, so I can only run the game successfully in SteamVR runtime.

Windows 10, RTX 4090.
Last edited by Kyo; Mar 25, 2024 @ 10:57am
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Cyborn  [developer] Mar 26, 2024 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
Same here with Pico 4 on Virtual Desktop.
Some months ago there was no such problem, but now if I start Hubris in OpenXR runtime (Steam > library > Hubris > Play > openXR) it only shows black screen with sound, so I can only run the game successfully in SteamVR runtime.

Windows 10, RTX 4090.

This is because of Virtual Desktop now having the VDXR runtime enabled by default for our game.
You should be able to just go for VDXR in combination with the right Pico openXR runtime?

If that does not work then you will indeed have to use SteamVR and the the regular VD runtime.
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Kyo Mar 26, 2024 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Cyborn:
You should be able to just go for VDXR in combination with the right Pico openXR runtime?
Originally posted by Cyborn:
If that does not work then you will indeed have to use SteamVR and the the regular VD runtime.

I can't understand you. Can you clarify, what is "right Pico openxr runtime" and what is "regular VD runtime"?

If in VD I choose VDXR as a runtime, Hubris won't work (no matter what runtime choose when launching the game) - it shows only black screen with sound, as I mentioned before.
Last edited by Kyo; Mar 26, 2024 @ 9:57am
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Cyborn  [developer] Mar 29, 2024 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
Originally posted by Cyborn:
You should be able to just go for VDXR in combination with the right Pico openXR runtime?
Originally posted by Cyborn:
If that does not work then you will indeed have to use SteamVR and the the regular VD runtime.

I can't understand you. Can you clarify, what is "right Pico openxr runtime" and what is "regular VD runtime"?

If in VD I choose VDXR as a runtime, Hubris won't work (no matter what runtime choose when launching the game) - it shows only black screen with sound, as I mentioned before.

Ah so I double checked current Pico implementation and it looks like Pico does not use openXR but just uses steamVR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PicoXR/comments/11g4827/openxr_runtime/

So I assume thats why you have to run the game over regular Virtual Desktop and also use the non openXR option and then the setup works.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention this way we can better inform our players!
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Kyo Mar 29, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Cyborn:
Ah so I double checked current Pico implementation and it looks like Pico does not use openXR but just uses steamVR.

That is strange, because few months ago I could successfully run Hubris in OpenXR runtime (it was clearly visible for me, because of lack of SteamVR overlays (fpsvr, ovras, etc.) and increased game performance, so I definitely launched Hubris in OpenXR mode in the past).
Last edited by Kyo; Mar 29, 2024 @ 12:26pm
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Cyborn  [developer] Apr 2, 2024 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
Originally posted by Cyborn:
Ah so I double checked current Pico implementation and it looks like Pico does not use openXR but just uses steamVR.

That is strange, because few months ago I could successfully run Hubris in OpenXR runtime (it was clearly visible for me, because of lack of SteamVR overlays (fpsvr, ovras, etc.) and increased game performance, so I definitely launched Hubris in OpenXR mode in the past).

But a few months ago there was no VDXR so it was by default running over steamVR or did you use cable back then?
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Kyo Apr 2, 2024 @ 10:19am 
There definitely was VDXR. That was the time when I discovered openxr first time (I tested Hubris switching auto > steamvr > vdxr).
And release page (https://github.com/guygodin/VirtualDesktop/releases/tag/v1.29.6) says VDXR feature was released in October 2023.

And I never had cable, don't even know how to connect it)
Last edited by Kyo; Apr 2, 2024 @ 10:20am
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Cyborn  [developer] Apr 4, 2024 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
There definitely was VDXR. That was the time when I discovered openxr first time (I tested Hubris switching auto > steamvr > vdxr).
And release page (https://github.com/guygodin/VirtualDesktop/releases/tag/v1.29.6) says VDXR feature was released in October 2023.

And I never had cable, don't even know how to connect it)

weird so you are saying since the latest update the Pico over VDXR no longer works with our openXR version. We did not change anything to any of that build though.

Are there other open XR pico games you can run over VDXR? Is this issue only with our title?
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Kyo Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:57am 
> since the latest update

Can't say if it is since latest or since some pre-latest.
Also it can be caused by SteamVR update or Steam update or VD update.

> Are there other open XR pico games you can run over VDXR?

Can't answer now, because I haven't played any openxr game besides Hubris.

By the way I assume we can leave my problem be, as it is not critical. Besides we already went offtopic - this thread is about Quest 3.

upd 09.06.24. My problem is fixed with update 1.32.4 of VD.
Last edited by Kyo; Jun 9, 2024 @ 11:16am
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