Hubris
Dimitrios Dec 7, 2022 @ 11:19am
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Hubris closes SteamVR and runs from WMR
I am playing with a Reverb G2. For some reason, this game automatically closes SteamVR upon launch and starts directly from the WMR home. But why? I am playing with Index Controllers which means I need additional apps running in the background. But apart from that, I want other additional quality of live apps running in the background as well. Why does this game close SteamVR upon launch? Can I force it to run from SteamVR? Otherwise I guess I will have to refund.
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Cyborn  [developer] Dec 7, 2022 @ 12:11pm 
hey, the game runs with openXR so you have to use the native open XR plugin of Windows.

You can try to run using openvr but it might run into some other issues then
Dimitrios Dec 7, 2022 @ 12:23pm 
How do I force the game to run using openvr? I already set launch option "-openvr" but unfortunately this didn't work. Which is a shame, because I played the Demo and it was awesome. I think the game is great. But I really need the SteamVR environment :(
Last edited by Dimitrios; Dec 7, 2022 @ 12:26pm
Dimitrios Dec 7, 2022 @ 1:01pm 
I guess there may be a misunderstanding. All of the games I play via SteamVR use OpenXR. The difference to every other game is, that upon launch, it automatically closes SteamVR, thereby ending every other app I have loaded via SteamVR like fpsVR, Stop Sign VR or OVR for example. Other games do not do this. So how can I prevent this and force the game to launch via SteamVR?
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 7, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Dimitrios:
I guess there may be a misunderstanding. All of the games I play via SteamVR use OpenXR. The difference to every other game is, that upon launch, it automatically closes SteamVR, thereby ending every other app I have loaded via SteamVR like fpsVR, Stop Sign VR or OVR for example. Other games do not do this. So how can I prevent this and force the game to launch via SteamVR?


hey I am not sure if we support this specific situation but we will investigate this further and update you once we know, with the regular setup using open XR you should have no issues running the game with a reverb headset
CMDR Ryzel Dec 8, 2022 @ 7:34pm 
I'm having the same issue. I hope you can find a resolution to this.
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:54am 
Hey,

We did some more testing and we concluded this: as we only support openXR with the game just as the store page describes you can only play the game with WMR openXR.

If you would like to use index controllers with an HP Reverb then Windows should implement that as a viable option in their runtime, using another runtime will always be worse for the performance and can cause unknown bugs which are out of our hands.

We will also poke the platform vendors on how they will address this in the future because I can see how you prefer custom controllers with a headset of your liking but it is up to them to provide support for that.

Kind regards,

Koen
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 9, 2022 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by TheReclusiveGamer:
I'm trying to play this game with the Reverb G2 but it still keeps giving me an error message in red about the WMR controllers not being compatible?How do I fix this

Hi what controllers are you using and are you using the right runtime?
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 9, 2022 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by TheReclusiveGamer:
Originally posted by Cyborn:

Hi, what controllers are you using and are you using the right runtime?
I'm using the HP Reverb G2 controllers and yes I'm using the correct runtime....still not working

This should just work fine as we use Reverb's on the office ourselves. Can you go through the following steps and make sure all of them are checked:

* Is open XR enabled? Check discord for help on how to activate open XR. https://discord.com/channels/805822288774692874/1047600004623237133
* Is OpenXRToolkit enabled? -> disable
* Have you tried relaunching the app?
* Is your headset connected?
* Is your headset up-to-date?
* Is Vive Console Installed? -> remove/disable in steamvr plugin settings
* What Hardware and OS are you running on?
* Is your OS up-to-date
* Are your graphic drivers up-to-date?
* Does your firewall or antivirus block the Hubris application?
* Have you tried verifying the integrity of your game files on steam?
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0C48-FCBD-DA71-93EB

If any issues persist, please reach out to us on the bug-report-forum on our discord. By providing us with as much info as you can we can better understand and troubleshoot the issue.
[XGS]DonkyBoY Dec 9, 2022 @ 12:46pm 
Seems odd...

I too am using the HP Reverb G2 v2, but with 0 issues.

I am NOT forcing any command line options it is running as it came.
I am using the HP tracked motion controllers that came with the Reverb G2 v2
I did have the error msg pop up on screen about one of my controllers loosing connection... I replaced the battery's in this controller and the msg went away. (You must use 1.6v battery's in the HP controllers or they will constantly keep loosing connection)

The game seems to run with SteamVR and does not close anything, yet runs just fine.
(there was a couple of times that I fell through the geometry while climbing but this appears to have been fixed now)


Windows 11 22H2
Nvidia 3090Ti
AMD 3900x
32GB RAM
Asus x570 Strix ROG
Last edited by [XGS]DonkyBoY; Dec 9, 2022 @ 12:49pm
SteakOplomb Dec 10, 2022 @ 1:46pm 
Well... I'm using a Reverb G2 with standard HP controllers and can't get the game to launch either. I have an error message saying "Failed to open descriptor file ../../../HubrisVR/HubrisVR.uproject"
I believe I followed the instructions regarding openXR correctly. I didn't have any error message in the WMR portal though...

Any thoughts ?

Drivers up to date
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
32Gb RAM
GTX3080TI
HP Reverb G2 v1 (V2 powerbox) with standard HP controllers
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 10, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Le_troll_des_bois:
Well... I'm using a Reverb G2 with standard HP controllers and can't get the game to launch either. I have an error message saying "Failed to open descriptor file ../../../HubrisVR/HubrisVR.uproject"
I believe I followed the instructions regarding openXR correctly. I didn't have any error message in the WMR portal though...

Any thoughts ?

Drivers up to date
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
32Gb RAM
GTX3080TI
HP Reverb G2 v1 (V2 powerbox) with standard HP controllers

Descriptor file error is not caused by the game but by an error during instalation or a driver issue.

Can you make sure to update all your drivers, verify the steam instalation file?
Fdruid Dec 10, 2022 @ 2:17pm 
For other games that default to OpenXR for WMR, like Bonelabs you can change the runtime used to SteamVR, there's a setting for that.

I understand the OP's problem because I use walk in place locomotion apps in games to avoid the motion sickness I get when using sliding locomotion. And in particular I did get sickness while playing the Hubris demo, before I learned how to change this.

Sadly it could result in worse performance. But you could at least try it.

I don't know if it would work for this game because I'm not buying it (at least not at full price), as it's incredibly expensive for my region, Argentina. Which is a shame because I liked the demo, but this OpenXR problem added to the high price really will keep me away from this game.
SteakOplomb Dec 10, 2022 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Cyborn:
Originally posted by Le_troll_des_bois:
Well... I'm using a Reverb G2 with standard HP controllers and can't get the game to launch either. I have an error message saying "Failed to open descriptor file ../../../HubrisVR/HubrisVR.uproject"
I believe I followed the instructions regarding openXR correctly. I didn't have any error message in the WMR portal though...

Any thoughts ?

Drivers up to date
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
32Gb RAM
GTX3080TI
HP Reverb G2 v1 (V2 powerbox) with standard HP controllers

Descriptor file error is not caused by the game but by an error during instalation or a driver issue.

Can you make sure to update all your drivers, verify the steam instalation file?

Got it figured out.
The problem came from the fact that SteamVR was already up and running (>_>)
Once closed, the game ran like a charm. Enjoyed my first hour of gameplay :)

Thanks for your assistance :)
Schranzi Dec 22, 2022 @ 8:51pm 
Hubris works well with SteamVR Runtime and I had no Performance Issues or something else (In SteamVR under "Developer" simply change the runtime environment to SteamVr). Ingame you can use the OpenXr Bindings and they working well for the HP Reverb G2 Controllers too

Why i used SteamVR Runtime ?

When you use the native OpenXR Plugin how recommended, you can not use Toolkits like OVR Ingame as Example, because then OVR can not detect SteamVR (for the reason described by the topic opener). Of course, you can also hang a desktop reflection somewhere in the corner, but that limits the immersion a lot in my Opinion.

If you close the Windows Mixed Reality Portal and open it again you will get an Hint that the wrong runtime is active, but with a click on repair it will be corrected and the runtime will change back to Windows Mixed Reality in SteamVr (which also means that if you want to continue playing Hubris with the SteamVr runtime, you have to change it back to SteamVr again if you have pressed the Repair button before to use the WMR Runtime for other Games).

Anyways ..
Last edited by Schranzi; Dec 22, 2022 @ 9:08pm
Cyborn  [developer] Dec 23, 2022 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by Schranzi:
Hubris works well with SteamVR Runtime and I had no Performance Issues or something else (In SteamVR under "Developer" simply change the runtime environment to SteamVr). Ingame you can use the OpenXr Bindings and they working well for the HP Reverb G2 Controllers too

Why i used SteamVR Runtime ?

When you use the native OpenXR Plugin how recommended, you can not use Toolkits like OVR Ingame as Example, because then OVR can not detect SteamVR (for the reason described by the topic opener). Of course, you can also hang a desktop reflection somewhere in the corner, but that limits the immersion a lot in my Opinion.

If you close the Windows Mixed Reality Portal and open it again you will get an Hint that the wrong runtime is active, but with a click on repair it will be corrected and the runtime will change back to Windows Mixed Reality in SteamVr (which also means that if you want to continue playing Hubris with the SteamVr runtime, you have to change it back to SteamVr again if you have pressed the Repair button before to use the WMR Runtime for other Games).

Anyways ..

Hi so actually Windows deployed a patch two or three days ago to fix the issues on there end which is why the game now also runs with SteamVR -> https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsMR/comments/zo1s6b/windows_mixed_reality_for_steamvr_beta_updated/

so this is why you can now play on the WMR devices with steam VR and also use non WMR controllers. :)
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