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[zaphodikus]

2008... now 9 years on and not a single peep from any publisher on a title to top the recipe and great gameplay of Phileaons Secret and of River of Time, what say you? Are there any paths to RPG heaven still open?

[Corlain]

That's because they went bankrupt ages ago. The current owner of the rights only makes the crappy MMO.

[NavFamG]

Big Point that owns Drakensang Online only owns the name, not the intellectual properties, and I think that only applies to online? / computer? games since there's a company translating the German Drakensang rules into English and selling it and the modules here in the states now under the Drakensang name.

The game Realms of Arkania is set in Adventuria like Drakensang and looks like Drakensang so .......

http://store.steampowered.com/app/237550/

[naomha]

Realms is a remake. A decent one, too. However, it's not looking like anyone is picking up The Dark Eye universe and making any games right now. Sad, too, as I'd love to see another new game in that world as well. The Drakensang MMO is straight garbage. Just like Neverwinter is a foul, red-headed step child to the Neverwinter Nights games.

Still, there's hope. The Dark Eye tabletop games are quite popular in Germany. Moreso than DnD is over there. Hopefully, someone with some cahonas will make a new game. Fingers crossed, m8.

In the meantime, check out Elex. A new game coming out from PB. It has that same Eastern European flair as Gothic, Drakensang, Risen, Spellforce, etc. Something about the European developers that I just like their style and games. OH, I almost forgot. There is another Drakensang game called Demonicon. It's not as good as the Drakensang games themselves but is in the same universe. It's good. Not great.

[zaphodikus]

Thanks for the tips.
@NamFam, added Realms of Armkania to my list to check out.

Originally posted by naomha:

OH, I almost forgot. There is another Drakensang game called Demonicon. It's not as good as the Drakensang games themselves but is in the same universe. It's good. Not great.

Agree, lacklustre, playable but not pretty and polished enough to become immersive by any means.

Originally posted by naomha:

In the meantime, check out Elex. A new game coming out from PB. It has that same Eastern European flair as Gothic, Drakensang, Risen, Spellforce, etc. Something about the European developers that I just like their style and games.

Have you got a link or a full name for Alex?
My expectations were raised so high after Drakensang. I can not go back to Baldurs Gate in all it's jaunty pixelated humourous glory now. Would love to find a group online ,of folk who love to play the good RPGs. If steam do not promote them, someone might be on another platform.

[sethmage]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/411300/

[Nephos]

Originally posted by NavFamG:

Big Point that owns Drakensang Online only owns the name, not the intellectual properties, and I think that only applies to online? / computer? games since there's a company translating the German Drakensang rules into English and selling it and the modules here in the states now under the Drakensang name.

The game Realms of Arkania is set in Adventuria like Drakensang and looks like Drakensang so .......

http://store.steampowered.com/app/237550/

The same developer are doing a remake of star trail, which is a bit more polished.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/288860

[Corlain]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

My expectations were raised so high after Drakensang. I can not go back to Baldurs Gate in all it's jaunty pixelated humourous glory now. Would love to find a group online ,of folk who love to play the good RPGs. If steam do not promote them, someone might be on another platform.

Have you tried mods for Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2? Some of them are better than Bioware's and Obsidian's official campaigns, and it's fun how you can export the same character to different adventures.

There are even NWN2 versions of Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale, with all the quests remade and dialogue ripped from the original versions.

[zaphodikus]

Originally posted by sethmage:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/411300/

Oooh shiney :-)

[zaphodikus]

Originally posted by l_hamalainen:

There are even NWN2 versions of Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale, with all the quests remade and dialogue ripped from the original versions.

Ah did not know, I did kind of like NWN2. Although the thing that I found dry about it was the stories, defo will look for the add-ons, because I did play NWN and NWN2 for a long time as a gap filler until something better finally came across my radar.
Elex looks more like it might be up there with the Gothic series, which were really fun because it was worth playing them a second time, unlike NWN which was only worth playing for longer if you loaded an expansion.

[mikeydsc]

Have you looked at Blackguard 1 n 2? Uses the DEU ruleset.

[zaphodikus]

Thanks Mikey. Blackguards is getting mostly negative reviews. But based on discussion posts it looks closer to balanced. Duly added to wishlist and flogs myself for not getting it in the recent sales.

[mikeydsc]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

Thanks Mikey. Blackguards is getting mostly negative reviews. But based on discussion posts it looks closer to balanced. Duly added to wishlist and flogs myself for not getting it in the recent sales.

People gave it negative reviews because they didnt understand the system. They didnt do their due diligence to learn the differences between the DEU and DnD. They thought they were getting a DnD clone, but we know the rules are different. Once you learn how DEU rule set works, game is pretty straight forward.

[Kronovan]

Originally posted by mikeydsc:

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

Thanks Mikey. Blackguards is getting mostly negative reviews. But based on discussion posts it looks closer to balanced. Duly added to wishlist and flogs myself for not getting it in the recent sales.

People gave it negative reviews because they didnt understand the system. They didnt do their due diligence to learn the differences between the DEU and DnD. They thought they were getting a DnD clone, but we know the rules are different. Once you learn how DEU rule set works, game is pretty straight forward.

Late to the party on this thread, but I have to agree with this. I just finished Blackguards 1 and apart from a few very challenging/unbalanced/frustrating battles I enjoyed it very much. The writing and story in particular are 1st rate in that game. You do have to understand the underlying TDE/DSA system though, or you'll screw up your PC. I'm more of a fan of P'n'P RPGs though, so that might account for some of my enthusiasm for it, as it really plays like a P'n'P campaign.

[mikeydsc]

B sure to check out the other 2 games, Rivers of Time and Drakensang2 Philleans Secret I think its called. Both are still in my back log to get to eventually :).

[NavFamG]

Phil's Secret is a DLC of River of Time, that's played right along side RoT.

At a rough guess it was a quest line one of the dev's was working on that wasn't finished in time to include it in RoT hurried release. Finished a bit later it was released as a DLC that was meant to be played as you played RoT.

Of course that might be all twaddle, as the quest line in Phil's Secret has nothing to do with the RoT quest line. :)

If you get RoT it's well worth picking up Phil's Secret too.