This is probably the worst racing game I've ever played.

[RyuKaiser29]

No matter what difficulty level I set the game to, I end up being slower than most every other racer. Consistently they jump off the line faster than I can, and then it's a race of attrition trying to get my way through the pack without crashing.

I'm sitting at VERY EASY right now. 20%. Doesn't work. No matter what I do, every racer takes every corner better than I can, has bikes better than mine ever could be, to the point I'm so absolutely frustrated with this game that it's causing me physical problems.

Devs, I don't know if you're listening, but this is not enjoyable. I want to have fun collecting and racing cool bikes, but every single race is a fight for my life against some of the hardest difficulty I've played.

Perhaps the game is not for me. Perhaps I need to stop buying Milestone products. All I know if you advertised all these things I could use to better my experience and they're not working, and I'm at my wits end trying to enjoy this game, since it has such a massive roster of bikes and I think motorcycles are cool.

[JamoZ]

Right...if it`s too difficult, just blame the game.

They`ve already dumbed down the physics so much since release that even my 4 year old daughter can complete a lap without crashing now, what more do you want them to do?

[RyuKaiser29]

Originally posted by JamoZ:

Right...if it`s too difficult, just blame the game.

They`ve already dumbed down the physics so much since release that even my 4 year old daughter can complete a lap without crashing now, what more do you want them to do?

Uh... physics are nice I guess? I just want the enemy racers slowed down so I can actually learn the game and run through career mode and start unlocking bikes. They take all turns with absolute perfection while I quite literally have no chance to win or get close because both their bikes and AI are better than my driving.

[Ant]

As many people say that it's great, as say the opposite. It's different things to different people. Skill levels range as does experience and some might find difficulty where others don't. Just because people have different experiences and opinions doesn't mean they're wrong.

I think the AI has been somewhat poorly implemented. It seems to have been a top-down endeavour, making the AI riders all capable of riding well at 120% difficulty, but the real world isn't like that. Few players can ride at that level of difficulty and do well, consistently.

Conversely, the AI is also inconsistent insofar as they are amazing on some tracks and hopeless on others. The AI difficulty setting appears to make little difference is some scenarios than others. For example some of the 600 sport career races are hugely challenging at all levels, especially on tracks which have few straights - Laguna Seca for example, because the way the AI is restricted is simply by reducing the top speed, which is not usually relevant in turns. The whole race needs to be almost entirely mistake free to win even at lower AI levels.

In reality, people start at a low level and improve. When faced with an AI that defeats them so soon and so easily, it becomes very frustrating, very quickly.

I'd like to see an AI based on similar learning/improving strategies as IRL. I understood that was the original intention when the ANNA neural learning AI was announced. It would learn and improve alongside the player, but that doesn't seem to have been the case. Maybe it's just too difficult to do.

There doesn't seem to have been much play-testing either. Many simple things are overlooked, trusted to be spotted by the community and, hopefully, patched later in the rush to get the product to market. It would only take a couple of dozen players of various levels to expose issues, which should have been resolved before the game was released.

Time is money, however.

[spacejazz]

It's great! Sure it's not a sim in the truest sense, but it's only ever going to be a facsimile anyway. Until enough people are prepared to pay a large sum of money to convince a company to produce a handlebar controller, it cannot be like rFactor and the like.

If you're losing at 20% you need to practice more.

[Jägermeister]

So the game is not so arcade after all. Just praktice.

[RyuKaiser29]

Originally posted by spacejazz:

It's great! Sure it's not a sim in the truest sense, but it's only ever going to be a facsimile anyway. Until enough people are prepared to pay a large sum of money to convince a company to produce a handlebar controller, it cannot be like rFactor and the like.

If you're losing at 20% you need to practice more.

Or... or... the difficulty setting could actually do what it says so I can set the game to my preferred level. Like every other racing game does.

"Git guud" is not an argument when there's a difficulty slider and it doesn't work.

[Lord Codswallop]

I declare game devs a dead species in 2021. What is this CRAP? No game you ever pay damn hard earned money for resembles even the slightest glimmer of its former self or even anything remotely like what you would expect it to be. There's obviously something terribly wrong with the education system or the individuals themselves. Buy a game in 2021? you have a one in gazillion chance its going to be anything like what we've gotten in the past or would expect to get now. <=> R.I.P Gaming.

[Ant]

Originally posted by Lord Codswallop:

I declare game devs a dead species in 2021. What is this CRAP? No game you ever pay damn hard earned money for resembles even the slightest glimmer of its former self or even anything remotely like what you would expect it to be. There's obviously something terribly wrong with the education system or the individuals themselves. Buy a game in 2021? you have a one in gazillion chance its going to be anything like what we've gotten in the past or would expect to get now. <=> R.I.P Gaming.

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[richardmarclorena]

Originally posted by RyuKaiser29:

No matter what difficulty level I set the game to, I end up being slower than most every other racer. Consistently they jump off the line faster than I can, and then it's a race of attrition trying to get my way through the pack without crashing.

I'm sitting at VERY EASY right now. 20%. Doesn't work. No matter what I do, every racer takes every corner better than I can, has bikes better than mine ever could be, to the point I'm so absolutely frustrated with this game that it's causing me physical problems.

Devs, I don't know if you're listening, but this is not enjoyable. I want to have fun collecting and racing cool bikes, but every single race is a fight for my life against some of the hardest difficulty I've played.

Perhaps the game is not for me. Perhaps I need to stop buying Milestone products. All I know if you advertised all these things I could use to better my experience and they're not working, and I'm at my wits end trying to enjoy this game, since it has such a massive roster of bikes and I think motorcycles are cool.

I'm new to this game. Just like in real life, choose your first "entry level" bike. Take the 300cc class first.
Keep in mind also that there's so much to learn in a game. That's how you should enjoy it. Right now I can easily defeat AI's with my R3 in Realistic physics. Tone down the difficulty of them. Also, take one track at a time; familiarize with the track. That's how you win. After my R3, I am using an R6 on my "600cc" class. This game is so unbelievable that you can actually feel the difference of every bikes. If you're not a real "enthusiast" of motorbikes in real life. Then maybe you can't really just enjoy this game.
That's all I can say. Thank you.

[★BigShot★]

Originally posted by RyuKaiser29:

Or... or... the difficulty setting could actually do what it says so I can set the game to my preferred level. Like every other racing game does.

"Git guud" is not an argument when there's a difficulty slider and it doesn't work.

Agreed 100%.

That difficulty slider is not doing it's job in the corners. It seems to work well in the straights by slowing them way down on the lowest setting, but in the corners it's still got them way too fast.

Dunno if the fault is with the AI coding itself or just how the slider is working, but the developer needs to stop ignoring this issue as right now there's little hope for new players to enjoy the game against the AI since it's not scaling well at all.

[Rem4rk4ble]

Imagine wanting the game to be easier than it already is

[★BigShot★]

Imagine what it's like being a snot nosed spoiled POS who spends 2,000 hours playing motorcycle video games to get fast and then proceeds to crapp all over his fellow players simply because they don't spend as much time as he does trying to "git good".....oh wait, you don't have to imagine...never-mind then!

[RyuKaiser29]

Originally posted by OG Moose Knuckle:

Imagine wanting the game to be easier than it already is

Hey, if it's super easy for you, great. I just want the difficulty slider to work so I can set the thing to my skill level and enjoy the game I purchased. It's a feature, I bought it for the reason it had it and I could collect a bunch of real bikes and supposedly have fun, and I'm not getting any of the advertised experience.

[3dfx]

Try to practice in the time trial, get a feel for the brake and the accelerator and learn to draw the curves correctly. You will see that as your times go down, it will be much easier to defeat the AI. Try to leave aside the trajectory mode a bit and try what I have told you, you will see how in a short time it does not seem so difficult.

[★BigShot★]

Again...it's not about practicing. You are confused in thinking that as long as you or someone else can beat the AI that all is fine and that is your mistake.

Not everyone WANTS to spend their time practicing to beat AI that does not scale well to begin with. I've been playing against AI in PC racing games since 1994. I've won a bunch of virtual world championships in online leagues and have many call me an "alien" as in my hay-day I was not so easy to beat in hot-lapping nor in full races...so I know all about racing lines, setup and practicing...this is NOT about getting good.

It is about the coding not working well. The AI does not scale well through it's difficulty slider range. It is clearly broken and can easily be measured by the developer. Of course they know this as it's not the only Ride game that has scaling issues with it's AI. It's just much worse now in Ride 4 and it needs to be fixed.

The AI should NOT ram you in the back constantly simply for slowing down for an approaching corner. This happens because the AI is canned and is not bound by the same game physics that the player is. It can magically slow down in a split second without any loss of control or needing any time. This is likely why the difficulty slider is crapola...because the AI coding itself is junk.

Yes...with lots of practice some players can eventually get fast enough to compensate for the horrible AI behavior, but that is not the point.

The point is that the AI coding is trash and the developer as usual will not publicly address the issue...and THIS means that unless you are very good at this sort of game or you aspire to be very good, then you will not able able to play & enjoy your time with this game as a casual racer

FIX the friggen AI slider so that those of us who are a few seconds off the pace can still play and enjoy some racing against the AI without having to go balls-out sweaty.