Auto tuck doesn't work!

[kensai606]

For some of you struggling to win...as the title says, auto tuck in doesn't work.

Take a 1000cc Race Modified to a track, using auto tuck you get around 165mph.
Use manual tuck and you get almost 200mph! I used Imola, bumpy as it is.
I don't know about you but that's quite a handicap in my humble opinion.

[ZKA IDC]

I used manual tuck. The rider automaticly tuck himself. Idk why but the speed is not as much when you tuck in. LoL same animation but different result why?

[kensai606]

I'm now using manual tuck, and actually pressing the button. It makes a huge difference. But there's no animation, hopefully it's going to be fixed.
Surely the next update should be here soon.

[SaxonRaider]

No difference on a normal sport bike, it is specific to just RM bikes?

[kensai606]

I don't know, I'll test!

[Vampire]

I just use manual tuck - same regardless of bike type - just prob more noticeable on a race bike due to accel and speed. But easy to not press on the straights, then press and see the speed climb faster/some more. You can see/notice the acceleration improvement too once you are used to it.
Always use it once established out of pretty much every corner, but need to be aware it reduces your braking/cornering ability so release it then.

[kensai606]

Yes, I just tried a few road bikes. Don't tuck and you are definitely slower, both top end and acceleration. Use auto tuck and it's the same as not using it.
So as far as I can tell, auto tuck does NOT work on any bikes...at all.

It badly affects cornering though, so don't just spam it.

Having thought about it I like it as things are right now. Skill should be rewarded, manual should give an advantage. Auto gears, auto brakes and auto tuck in? If there was no penalty in terms of outright speed then there is no point to the entire concept of 'racing' (just in case people cry foul because they are slower through using auto).

So, git gud

[Frey]

引用自 kensai606：

Yes, I just tried a few road bikes. Don't tuck and you are definitely slower, both top end and acceleration. Use auto tuck and it's the same as not using it.
So as far as I can tell, auto tuck does NOT work on any bikes...at all.

It badly affects cornering though, so don't just spam it.

Having thought about it I like it as things are right now. Skill should be rewarded, manual should give an advantage. Auto gears, auto brakes and auto tuck in? If there was no penalty in terms of outright speed then there is no point to the entire concept of 'racing' (just in case people cry foul because they are slower through using auto).

So, git gud

it's strange, with the helmet cam you see when the auto tuck is enabled, the cam moves automatically....

[Axe]

Animations don't necessarily mean the intended result is being actioned.

[BustedUpBiker]

Beg to differ.

Tested this with a Hayabusa on Philip Island.

Auto tuck in on - 183mph at end of straight
Auto off / Manual tuck in used (LB pressed and held from apex of final bend) - 183mph
Auto off / Manual tuck in not used - 156mph

When not pressing manual tuck in, you can really feel the bike and rider dragging above 140mph or so. The tuck in animation does not work - in all scenarios above the rider was visibly tucked in.

[kensai606]

Maybe there are anomalies, but auto tuck in is bugged. I've seen it, other people have seen it.
But you can play how you wish. Ignore us.

[Luska]

I don't think the AI is tucking in either. I use manual tuck in and blast by them on the straights. Even on a less powerful bike.

[kensai606]

It's blatantly bugged. I've proven it through testing. Using manual tuck in and actually pressing the button makes your bike faster and reduces grip through corners.

[Vampire]

引用自 SolLuna46：

I don't think the AI is tucking in either. I use manual tuck in and blast by them on the straights. Even on a less powerful bike.

Set difficulty to 100% for proper AI speed on straights - currently this setting greatly effects AI top speed.

And yep the manual tuck also nicely increases your acceleration so use it out of every corner, but not too early as it drops grip to the rear quite a bit.

[Luska]

引用自 Vampire：

引用自 SolLuna46：

I don't think the AI is tucking in either. I use manual tuck in and blast by them on the straights. Even on a less powerful bike.

Set difficulty to 100% for proper AI speed on straights - currently this setting greatly effects AI top speed.

And yep the manual tuck also nicely increases your acceleration so use it out of every corner, but not too early as it drops grip to the rear quite a bit.

Playing on 120%. The AI need a buff or something, turn their aggression into competitive would be great.

[kensai606]

引用自 SolLuna46：

引用自 Vampire：

Set difficulty to 100% for proper AI speed on straights - currently this setting greatly effects AI top speed.

And yep the manual tuck also nicely increases your acceleration so use it out of every corner, but not too early as it drops grip to the rear quite a bit.

Playing on 120%. The AI need a buff or something, turn their aggression into competitive would be great.

Magny and Sugo are excruciating to race at. The AI are terrible, almost as if they've never been there. They seem to have a real problem with hard braking.
I'm having to handicap myself.
It's a real shame because generally speaking the AI are very good. I can't think of a game with better AI. But there's still enough of a challenge to keep my interest alive.
Hot lapping has turned out to be great fun! Im attempting to get in the top 5 using pre 2000 bikes. 1980s preferably. The RC45 is fantastic! Quite possibly op, but if you assume your bike has the post sale 'race' upgrade it should be phenomenally quick. I know that any that went on track did have the upgrade.
Theres actually a video of a stock bike being road tested, and although the guy was awed by the opportunity he didn't think it was quick.
So there's my challenge, pre 2000 bikes, top 5!