I really dont understand this game

[Harribo]

I dont understand
I play against 800+ players, I am 730. Lost without a chance.

But they seems to control EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING
EVERY pass is good EVERY ball they take it perfect, not bouncing

I really dont understand. Yes. offline,....but online....? I dont get THAT TIME
My players are online slow, dont have ball control and the ball bounces everywhere...

SO if I even wanted to play llike them...I wouldnt even know how because everything seems laggy , but not with them

[76561198421440432]

I have told you before

Konami decides who win or loses, you are a murppet in game

[Peter_El-Kseur_1979]

Originally posted by Lord of the boards:

I have told you before

Konami decides who win or loses, you are a murppet in game

I start to believe in that...

[granada777]

As you go up the rankings, the competition gets harder.

I was somehow matched against a 1500-rated player, I thought "oh, a Turkish cheater no doubt", but nope, legit Dutch guy who beat me effortlessly 11-1. Watch some top streamers on Twitch, they are on another level.

Remember that pass accuracy is based on control. So if you are able to trap the ball and turn before passing, your pass is way less likely to be misplaced.

[Pampa]

The delay in input makes it impossible to play the game with fun. Yesterday I had a lot of games in coop where my players only made the given commands when the ball and opponent were already 2 passes away.
The whole behavior of our players was as if we were playing underwater, while the opponent obviously had no problems at all and could run and pass at top speed. The bad thing for me is that, in a playful way, I can't take anything with me to learn from these games. After the final whistle you stand there like the absolute beginner who has never played pes.
Most opponents came from Turkey, Uruguay, China, Ukraine, Singapore,Morocco,Egypt if you want to deduce it from the writing and flag. I am from Germany,so the matchmaking is pointless.

[Harribo]

Its not that I loose these matches.

I tried online some tricks but with the lags and slowness it is not possible.

I experience TOO MUCH SLOWNESS and therefore my players dont react quick enough.
There is too much time between pressing a button and the moment the player react.

So, how can my opponent have such perfect control? He does not seem to have the lags

[Harribo]

Originally posted by granada777:

As you go up the rankings, the competition gets harder.

I was somehow matched against a 1500-rated player, I thought "oh, a Turkish cheater no doubt", but nope, legit Dutch guy who beat me effortlessly 11-1. Watch some top streamers on Twitch, they are on another level.

Remember that pass accuracy is based on control. So if you are able to trap the ball and turn before passing, your pass is way less likely to be misplaced.

This.

But how can someone be so in control ? With these lags?
Especially trapping a ball.
Also, when I get the ball from him, he takes the ball very quickly back in a part of a second.
With the same player from him which lost the ball.
He turned and turned and I could not get the ball.

I think that I also have to learn a lot more if I want to be better.
But how, is it possible online with the lags?

And... How do I learn this? Because when I try youtube trick videos, they never seem to succedeed with me.
For example, I tried a corner tutorial. In the video every corner is a goal, in my experience I almost never score because my player heads too high or heads side of the goal or the keeper saves.

I wish that opponent was my neighbour so he could teach me with my online lags

[DMW]

There is no doubt that in code this game have a lot of secrets hidden from the world.
My conspiracy theory tells that players with highest ranking are better treated by the game scripting/handicap system. As You I also noticed that often my opponents with above 200/300 highest ranking, have no any problem against me and i feel that this is easy to much for them, because i know that i am not such noob as the final result could suggest. For them, to score a goal most often is limited to execute a couple precise passes and take a final shot, no bouncing, no misses no matter what distance is between their players. Everything is much precised, much smoothness and easy for them.

[djradu_85]

I don’t know what to say about all high ranking players ,because I’ve played some games with some 1000 up and not even a short lagg or else,game runs fine,even with low ranked same situation sometimes,but in most of the games ,are very hard to control something on my players ,I’m just starting to laugh hard seeing how horrible becomes,and seems like till close the final whistle,the more impossible becomes,unplayable 😖

[Space Manoeuvres]

Yeah, well it still doesn't make sense why a higher ranked player than me, when playing against is much more faster & responsive. We have almost the same team in terms of strength. Whatever you guys are talking about is rather misleading. I played a couple times folks with higher ranking and honestly they weren't good at all. Just doesn't make any sense to me anymore. If scripting plays a big part of online gaming, then this game is nowhere near an authentic futbol experience. Then again, I just played some kid who had everything nicely covered up with rather his cheating and script coming along his way. The user rank was lower then mines not by much. It should of been an even game to say the least.
To think that a couple days ago I was getting closer to 700 and now I'm trying to survive at 600. At the time I was beating users with higher ranks than me. Really guys, this doesn't make any sense to me. I'm aware that I won't be able to reach a higher rank because I deserve one without any doubt. If scripting and/or cheating is accepted in this game so be it.

[djradu_85]

Like every time happening to me when I’m on Division 8 ,almost every time getting rating between 750-850-900 by conceded wins and draws and if i get in to 7 Division ,well here start another football gameplay for me,most of games loosing,drawing or winning are inexplicable,just don’t make any sense how im loosing or winning here

Originally posted by Globe_Cruiser185:

Yeah, well it still doesn't make sense why a higher ranked player than me, when playing against is much more faster & responsive. We have almost the same team in terms of strength. Whatever you guys are talking about is rather misleading. I played a couple times folks with higher ranking and honestly they weren't good at all. Just doesn't make any sense to me anymore. If scripting plays a big part of online gaming, then this game is nowhere near an authentic futbol experience. Then again, I just played some kid who had everything nicely covered up with rather his cheating and script coming along his way. The user rank was lower then mines not by much. It should of been an even game to say the least.
To think that a couple days ago I was getting closer to 700 and now I'm trying to survive at 600. At the time I was beating users with higher ranks than me. Really guys, this doesn't make any sense to me. I'm aware that I won't be able to reach a higher rank because I deserve one without any doubt. If scripting and/or cheating is accepted in this game so be it.

[djradu_85]

Originally posted by djradu_85:

Like every time happening to me when I’m on Division 8 ,almost every time getting rating between 750-850-900 by conceded wins and draws and if i get in to 7 Division ,well here start another football gameplay for me,most of games loosing,drawing or winning are inexplicable,just don’t make any sense how im loosing or winning here. Right now I’m 785 Rating on 8 Division

Originally posted by Globe_Cruiser185:

Yeah, well it still doesn't make sense why a higher ranked player than me, when playing against is much more faster & responsive. We have almost the same team in terms of strength. Whatever you guys are talking about is rather misleading. I played a couple times folks with higher ranking and honestly they weren't good at all. Just doesn't make any sense to me anymore. If scripting plays a big part of online gaming, then this game is nowhere near an authentic futbol experience. Then again, I just played some kid who had everything nicely covered up with rather his cheating and script coming along his way. The user rank was lower then mines not by much. It should of been an even game to say the least.
To think that a couple days ago I was getting closer to 700 and now I'm trying to survive at 600. At the time I was beating users with higher ranks than me. Really guys, this doesn't make any sense to me. I'm aware that I won't be able to reach a higher rank because I deserve one without any doubt. If scripting and/or cheating is accepted in this game so be it.

[Harribo]

Im not talking about the script here.
Because sometimes the script works also for me, but then I cant still do the tricks online. Never.

Thats because of the slowness of the reactions of the buttons. With some button delay. This delay is always there for me. Especially online.

But hows possible that these opponents can do these tricks? They dont have the button delay in the game online?
Opponents were 800-900. And from Turkye. You have more control in pes online when you live in Turkye? Strange
Those were nice normal players.

I also would like to do these tricks and moves, maybe then I get better.
But the youtube videos do not work much for me, because of this button delay (and maybe online lag and script)

[Harribo]

One solution for the lags is to set the pass level to 3, that is full automatic
You cannot pass normally with the lags, so let the cpu help

[Just Free Team]

ph 2 is the best

[djradu_85]

I have level 2 on pass,and assisted COM on attack and defense since many years,shoot level 1(right-center-left),assisted on defense level.