eFootball PES 2021 SEASON UPDATE

eFootball PES 2021 SEASON UPDATE

Javi-Hanma Sep 17, 2020 @ 12:32pm
people will never stop cheating..
the cheaters always believe that I do not know the trap they use using one program or several more to saturate the network(there is info in internet about their methods) ..
year after year it's the same .. one thing is certain konami has greatly improved the stability of the servers but the same method is still used since PES 2015 by cheaters (since the times of Zasa99)

I would know that this would happen in the matchday .. in cooperative mode these scourges never laggs-delay since they would lagg to them too..
Everyone cheats in this game in myclub.. 3 matches 3 delayed matches

Most have already configured the program at an indicated saturation level of data packets that they send to the modem ... however each connection per user varies due to their region so sometimes it fails them a bit and they have to pause the game to adjust the values..

after they pause the fluidity-smooth becomes worse, it difficult when controlling the player .. it makes your player "heavier" and the passes will be easier to miss due to the saturation in the connection, is what everyone is betting on .. just sabotage the rival's game to be able to win as easy as possible .. they are poor devils..

Looking at those noobs playing the same game on every match is painful .. trying to find an exploit and not generating any skill .. such a pity .. they could never beat me under normal conditions not even with the team I am playing with by default .. And of course, in a face-to-face meeting, you would see who is the real winner without being able to boycott the game as they do on the internet.

How do you know they make you cheat? easy .. the same situations .. they pause the game often , especially if they can't against me .. they pause and they don't make changes or anything tactical .. they just adjust the network traffic program to change the values ​​when doing the flood .. they do not enter the strategy menu .. my players seems like drunks it difficutl to dribble and pass , their passes give the impression of being ping pong when they play short without having many errors when the connection is supposed to be bad and sometimes their dribbles it is not difficult for them as one... CHEATER

Also things that I have seen readed on intetnet sites and learned a little about it, based on the talks I had with people who were programmers and played in PES 2015 like the same Starlen Silva who denounced so much cheating, he himself admitted to doing it in order to change the non-existent ethics in the PES community on steam .. which was really useless..

I have no other option but to continue playing in such adverse conditions ... and after matychday I will start reporting on the Konami site, waiting for them to be suspended and banned, it gives courage to have to make a report ticket every game but it is the only way to clean up little by little .. because if you give that report they look at the server data to analyze the game ..

Finally I will name the users with whom I played with that cheat delay they use .. and it is so obvious..

user NOTHING
this totally cheater.. pauses the game alot and the connection the players was heavy

user ARRONH11
The only decent match in connection seemed to be the same conditions for both.

user RoToR
Delayed match.. same.. she or he have troubles and paused for flood and changing the conditions

users
Anessun
NIKO
charara
metyn

everyone floood the match and pause the game often.. for make the cheat
Originally posted by clovicek:
Beautifully written, unfortunately this is true. Ronaldo, messi, mbape, speed, acceler 99 and the player is not running, rather as if he was pulling balls behind him: o) It's sad but it's so. they will win.
I don't understand this, but it's a phenomenon of today's young demented players. No fun from the game, the main thing is to win.
I will still understand a player who is not so good at the internet (although the delay is terrible, or lagging) but these idiots are incomprehensible, deliberately breaking the connection so that the opponent is not able to properly receive a balloon or record! Boys, your IQ is at the level of a toy horse.
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Aroslaw (Banned) Sep 17, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
+1
djradu_85 Sep 17, 2020 @ 1:28pm 
Those things are happening to me pretty much,exactly what you are saying. It’s sad that konami don’t improve in this area more often .
Pesgamer Sep 17, 2020 @ 2:55pm 
agree
Javi-Hanma Sep 17, 2020 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by djradu_85:
Those things are happening to me pretty much,exactly what you are saying. It’s sad that konami don’t improve in this area more often .
and I was just going to suggest the report the cheaters but I read a lot that konami was suspending and banning ... now reading in the official site this warning.

"Reports submitted through this form will not receive a response.
Intentional misuse of this form may result in your account being suspended or banned.
No details regarding the result of our investigation of your report will be shared with you.
Additionally, please be advised that we do not involve ourselves in personal disputes between users."

https://www.konami.com/wepes/2021_support/report/0/us/en-us/


This mean could mean that if you report alot they may think that you are doing it with malicious intent ... but they are supposed to Detect anomalies in the connection between those players by seeing that specific part if you reported on the exact date and time ... this warning gives me a bad feeling and the worst thing is that they do not notify you of the result..
Javi-Hanma Sep 17, 2020 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Pesgamer:
agree
thx for the support
Javi-Hanma Sep 17, 2020 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Aroslaw:
+1
👍 I think I'm going to hate myclub one more time😤
Javi-Hanma Sep 17, 2020 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by JO D-T:
And what Konami does to fix this? No problem at all as long as you buy coins. Pathetic people and company
Its a shame.. from their official page:

"Reports submitted through this form will not receive a response.
Intentional misuse of this form may result in your account being suspended or banned.
No details regarding the result of our investigation of your report will be shared with you."

the bad thing is that if you report the malicious act .. if something is wrong in your report they can suspend or ban you .. without prior notice and that is wrong .. in pES 2015 and 2016 they sent you a notice or a warning. ..

Sometimes for reasons like these it seems to me that the game encourages cheaters to keep playing and ruling Myclub
djradu_85 Sep 18, 2020 @ 1:20am 
First of all,I always get video and photo of every game I play,and if is eyes clearly that’s only affecting you and your opponent not,and every actions of your is lagged,slower or else,or just they disconnect when loosing and you not getting the points,or disconnecting you from internet making your fault (just because opponent can’t win),or they just don’t play at all on the field (starting score goals on his side and before game end they disconnect),this actions call for a disruptive and unsporting behavior,and has to be reported. Well,I’m pretty sure that are many who report ,even gameplay is running fine with no problem,just by the reason that they lost the game. I’ve seen comments on eFootball 2020 forums ,saying that this is a cheater and the most we report quickly,he gets the ban ,and others in his commentary section Approving and I suppose report him too,even they didn’t play against him. And a lots of them writing the list of cheaters here on those forums,and blaming hard on konami and others players,meaning they are violating the rules,because is illegal and lead to ban in short time,just because in their mind,they thinking that are superior to any rules and won’t get banned,also they never did anything to break any rules never,so I’m not surprised if someone get suspended,just because they can’t acting like a normal person. Everyone at some point get out of their mind,just because the game is not perfect,and seems like allway acting against them,but this is it,if you like the game you play it,with all inconveniences,if you don’t like it,you are free to choose.
Originally posted by Javi-Hanma:
Originally posted by djradu_85:
Those things are happening to me pretty much,exactly what you are saying. It’s sad that konami don’t improve in this area more often .
and I was just going to suggest the report the cheaters but I read a lot that konami was suspending and banning ... now reading in the official site this warning.

"Reports submitted through this form will not receive a response.
Intentional misuse of this form may result in your account being suspended or banned.
No details regarding the result of our investigation of your report will be shared with you.
Additionally, please be advised that we do not involve ourselves in personal disputes between users."

https://www.konami.com/wepes/2021_support/report/0/us/en-us/


This mean could mean that if you report alot they may think that you are doing it with malicious intent ... but they are supposed to Detect anomalies in the connection between those players by seeing that specific part if you reported on the exact date and time ... this warning gives me a bad feeling and the worst thing is that they do not notify you of the result..
Javi-Hanma Sep 18, 2020 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by djradu_85:
First of all,I always get video and photo of every game I play,and if is eyes clearly that’s only affecting you and your opponent not,and every actions of your is lagged,slower or else,or just they disconnect when loosing and you not getting the points,or disconnecting you from internet making your fault (just because opponent can’t win),or they just don’t play at all on the field (starting score goals on his side and before game end they disconnect),this actions call for a disruptive and unsporting behavior,and has to be reported. Well,I’m pretty sure that are many who report ,even gameplay is running fine with no problem,just by the reason that they lost the game. I’ve seen comments on eFootball 2020 forums ,saying that this is a cheater and the most we report quickly,he gets the ban ,and others in his commentary section Approving and I suppose report him too,even they didn’t play against him. And a lots of them writing the list of cheaters here on those forums,and blaming hard on konami and others players,meaning they are violating the rules,because is illegal and lead to ban in short time,just because in their mind,they thinking that are superior to any rules and won’t get banned,also they never did anything to break any rules never,so I’m not surprised if someone get suspended,just because they can’t acting like a normal person. Everyone at some point get out of their mind,just because the game is not perfect,and seems like allway acting against them,but this is it,if you like the game you play it,with all inconveniences,if you don’t like it,you are free to choose.
Originally posted by Javi-Hanma:
and I was just going to suggest the report the cheaters but I read a lot that konami was suspending and banning ... now reading in the official site this warning.

"Reports submitted through this form will not receive a response.
Intentional misuse of this form may result in your account being suspended or banned.
No details regarding the result of our investigation of your report will be shared with you.
Additionally, please be advised that we do not involve ourselves in personal disputes between users."

https://www.konami.com/wepes/2021_support/report/0/us/en-us/


This mean could mean that if you report alot they may think that you are doing it with malicious intent ... but they are supposed to Detect anomalies in the connection between those players by seeing that specific part if you reported on the exact date and time ... this warning gives me a bad feeling and the worst thing is that they do not notify you of the result..

First of all you are talking to a PES veteran .. I am an expert .. and your argument is more or less well founded but it is also the argument of the Top Cheaters, I know them well 😏, maybe you are one, maybe .. I don't know , They never admit that they are inferior and want to justify their dirty victory, they always want to keep their dark arts in the background and will seek to make less any denunciation .. similar to the style of the freemasons

The game is boycotted 100% I have played online since 2015, i have a lot experience, you are no talking with a noob .. as I said I met people like Starlen Silva, you know who he is .. in 2015 and 2016 I had him on my friends list .. I was a neophyte (still I am but not so much) and I was learning .. something with them ...

The cheating method was polished by the cheaters every year until now ... before it was believed that if the bad connection symbol did not appear, the game would be in the same conditions for both ... but there are programs to control traffic or saturate network traffic and prevent that (bad connection symbol)from coming out. they use dedicated hardware for the connection for avoid attacks .. in wikipedia you can find it, those sources I will not get them

The symbol and the lag is hidden and the delay is strong and they can adjust the sofware values for their good "perfomance", in 2017 I used that program (DDOs, i found it cause just was luck) because I was tired of the same and it was unplayable, using that tool I could save games because there were times when they would freeze it and make you lose the match .. and stop denying this, you know is true, and do not use ad hominen fallacy to demerit my complaint because to know how they cheat you must study and try it but I am not an expert in networks and I would not like to win as they do, I do have ethics.. in 2018 that tool was no longer so good to fight the trap .. it was fire vs fire, in 2019 I got fed up and played less I said it was not worth playing like that every play less .. until I return in 2020, I talk honestly, I can look anyone in the eye ..

I made this video at that time (2016) trying to demonstrate the existence of a cheat that is not visible or is not as perceptible as the old and obsolete speed test cheat.
I had heard about the program but maybe that person misinformed me (it was a steam friend who was a programmer but he was a cheater) that's why I named the video Net limiter .. when maybe it was another software like the one I discovered a year later..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/g9J7gPdXnHM

This is the reason why I do not bother to record the games of all that cheaters .. it is not easy to perceive for the eye .. only on your joytick control .. also I would have to put a timer clock animation and explain the point .. I think that video (visionary) that I made in 2016 does its job :).. I had my point

Look, you really irritated me and that's why I answered you like this, So excuse me for being like this .. I assure you that I can defeat you with my default MyClub team .. with players as coulfield, rekarte, sahoune, etc .. in a FACE-to-FACE game .. because in an online game uff there everyone can "move it" to the network to affect the opponent's connection ..

Remember in a FACE-to-FACE match you cant beat me and neither do they ,
they only can beat cause floods the network connection

Last edited by Javi-Hanma; Sep 18, 2020 @ 5:48am
djradu_85 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:22am 
Sorry if you think like that about me,what i was trying was simply my opinion as I see the gameplay from my side related a bit to your post,as Starlen Silva ,the name sounds much to me,don’t remember if i was played against him,and about those programming,software they use,is their problem,not mine,also I allway play with basic formations and defaults strategies from the game,and I would like to play with you sometime,for me is just a game to enjoy doesn’t matter if i win or lose ,just ad me : DjRadu ,i play with Real Madrid ,but i play only on DIVISION.So about cheating,you just said that you was using some tools for cheating,as for me ,I’m just a player who like to enjoy playing my favorite game since ISS PRO 98 when I was started. Again,sorry if you miss understood wrong about my comment opinion. Look,just this morning played against some : T.Ramin ,he had more games and higher rating points than me,and the game was very slowly only for me all 90 minutes,he was playing with Bayern Munchen,with an extraordinary speed all 90 minutes,with a lots of pauses from the start till minute 82 I guess,when i was leading 1-0 hardly scored,or lucky I could say,then seen that he could Not beat me and disconnect from game,no points for me,so just blocked him and reported,so in conclusion about others things,of course I didn’t liked,but I did my report and get to the next game,as always do.
Originally posted by Javi-Hanma:
Originally posted by djradu_85:
First of all,I always get video and photo of every game I play,and if is eyes clearly that’s only affecting you and your opponent not,and every actions of your is lagged,slower or else,or just they disconnect when loosing and you not getting the points,or disconnecting you from internet making your fault (just because opponent can’t win),or they just don’t play at all on the field (starting score goals on his side and before game end they disconnect),this actions call for a disruptive and unsporting behavior,and has to be reported. Well,I’m pretty sure that are many who report ,even gameplay is running fine with no problem,just by the reason that they lost the game. I’ve seen comments on eFootball 2020 forums ,saying that this is a cheater and the most we report quickly,he gets the ban ,and others in his commentary section Approving and I suppose report him too,even they didn’t play against him. And a lots of them writing the list of cheaters here on those forums,and blaming hard on konami and others players,meaning they are violating the rules,because is illegal and lead to ban in short time,just because in their mind,they thinking that are superior to any rules and won’t get banned,also they never did anything to break any rules never,so I’m not surprised if someone get suspended,just because they can’t acting like a normal person. Everyone at some point get out of their mind,just because the game is not perfect,and seems like allway acting against them,but this is it,if you like the game you play it,with all inconveniences,if you don’t like it,you are free to choose.

First of all you are talking to a PES veteran .. I am an expert .. and your argument is more or less well founded but it is also the argument of the Top Cheaters, I know them well 😏, maybe you are one, maybe .. I don't know , They never admit that they are inferior and want to justify their dirty victory, they always want to keep their dark arts in the background and will seek to make less any denunciation .. similar to the style of the freemasons

The game is boycotted 100% I have played online since 2015, i have a lot experience, you are no talking with a noob .. as I said I met people like Starlen Silva, you know who he is .. in 2015 and 2016 I had him on my friends list .. I was a neophyte (still I am but not so much) and I was learning .. something with them ...

The cheating method was polished by the cheaters every year until now ... before it was believed that if the bad connection symbol did not appear, the game would be in the same conditions for both ... but there are programs to control traffic or saturate network traffic and prevent that (bad connection symbol)from coming out. they use dedicated hardware for the connection for avoid attacks .. in wikipedia you can find it, those sources I will not get them

The symbol and the lag is hidden and the delay is strong and they can adjust the sofware values for their good "perfomance", in 2017 I used that program (DDOs, i found it cause just was luck) because I was tired of the same and it was unplayable, using that tool I could save games because there were times when they would freeze it and make you lose the match .. and stop denying this, you know is true, and do not use ad hominen fallacy to demerit my complaint because to know how they cheat you must study and try it but I am not an expert in networks and I would not like to win as they do, I do have ethics.. in 2018 that tool was no longer so good to fight the trap .. it was fire vs fire, in 2019 I got fed up and played less I said it was not worth playing like that every play less .. until I return in 2020, I talk honestly, I can look anyone in the eye ..

I made this video at that time (2016) trying to demonstrate the existence of a cheat that is not visible or is not as perceptible as the old and obsolete speed test cheat.
I had heard about the program but maybe that person misinformed me (it was a steam friend who was a programmer but he was a cheater) that's why I named the video Net limiter .. when maybe it was another software like the one I discovered a year later..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/g9J7gPdXnHM

This is the reason why I do not bother to record the games of all that cheaters .. it is not easy to perceive for the eye .. only on your joytick control .. also I would have to put a timer clock animation and explain the point .. I think that video (visionary) that I made in 2016 does its job :).. I had my point

Look, you really irritated me and that's why I answered you like this, So excuse me for being like this .. I assure you that I can defeat you with my default MyClub team .. with players as coulfield, rekarte, sahoune, etc .. in a FACE-to-FACE game .. because in an online game uff there everyone can "move it" to the network to affect the opponent's connection ..

Remember in a FACE-to-FACE match you cant beat me and neither do they ,
they only can beat cause floods the network connection
Javi-Hanma Sep 18, 2020 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by djradu_85:
Sorry if you think like that about me,what i was trying was simply my opinion as I see the gameplay from my side related a bit to your post,as Starlen Silva ,the name sounds much to me,don’t remember if i was played against him,and about those programming,software they use,is their problem,not mine,also I allway play with basic formations and defaults strategies from the game,and I would like to play with you sometime,for me is just a game to enjoy doesn’t matter if i win or lose ,just ad me : DjRadu ,i play with Real Madrid ,but i play only on DIVISION.So about cheating,you just said that you was using some tools for cheating,as for me ,I’m just a player who like to enjoy playing my favorite game since ISS PRO 98 when I was started. Again,sorry if you miss understood wrong about my comment opinion. Look,just this morning played against some : T.Ramin ,he had more games and higher rating points than me,and the game was very slowly only for me all 90 minutes,he was playing with Bayern Munchen,with an extraordinary speed all 90 minutes,with a lots of pauses from the start till minute 82 I guess,when i was leading 1-0 hardly scored,or lucky I could say,then seen that he could Not beat me and disconnect from game,no points for me,so just blocked him and reported,so in conclusion about others things,of course I didn’t liked,but I did my report and get to the next game,as always do.
Originally posted by Javi-Hanma:

First of all you are talking to a PES veteran .. I am an expert .. and your argument is more or less well founded but it is also the argument of the Top Cheaters, I know them well 😏, maybe you are one, maybe .. I don't know , They never admit that they are inferior and want to justify their dirty victory, they always want to keep their dark arts in the background and will seek to make less any denunciation .. similar to the style of the freemasons

The game is boycotted 100% I have played online since 2015, i have a lot experience, you are no talking with a noob .. as I said I met people like Starlen Silva, you know who he is .. in 2015 and 2016 I had him on my friends list .. I was a neophyte (still I am but not so much) and I was learning .. something with them ...

The cheating method was polished by the cheaters every year until now ... before it was believed that if the bad connection symbol did not appear, the game would be in the same conditions for both ... but there are programs to control traffic or saturate network traffic and prevent that (bad connection symbol)from coming out. they use dedicated hardware for the connection for avoid attacks .. in wikipedia you can find it, those sources I will not get them

The symbol and the lag is hidden and the delay is strong and they can adjust the sofware values for their good "perfomance", in 2017 I used that program (DDOs, i found it cause just was luck) because I was tired of the same and it was unplayable, using that tool I could save games because there were times when they would freeze it and make you lose the match .. and stop denying this, you know is true, and do not use ad hominen fallacy to demerit my complaint because to know how they cheat you must study and try it but I am not an expert in networks and I would not like to win as they do, I do have ethics.. in 2018 that tool was no longer so good to fight the trap .. it was fire vs fire, in 2019 I got fed up and played less I said it was not worth playing like that every play less .. until I return in 2020, I talk honestly, I can look anyone in the eye ..

I made this video at that time (2016) trying to demonstrate the existence of a cheat that is not visible or is not as perceptible as the old and obsolete speed test cheat.
I had heard about the program but maybe that person misinformed me (it was a steam friend who was a programmer but he was a cheater) that's why I named the video Net limiter .. when maybe it was another software like the one I discovered a year later..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/g9J7gPdXnHM

This is the reason why I do not bother to record the games of all that cheaters .. it is not easy to perceive for the eye .. only on your joytick control .. also I would have to put a timer clock animation and explain the point .. I think that video (visionary) that I made in 2016 does its job :).. I had my point

Look, you really irritated me and that's why I answered you like this, So excuse me for being like this .. I assure you that I can defeat you with my default MyClub team .. with players as coulfield, rekarte, sahoune, etc .. in a FACE-to-FACE game .. because in an online game uff there everyone can "move it" to the network to affect the opponent's connection ..

Remember in a FACE-to-FACE match you cant beat me and neither do they ,
they only can beat cause floods the network connection
oK I see that you omitted some points that I touched and you did not read well .. you say that I continue to use the programs and it is clear that I mentioned that I studied them .. and such a program prevented them from winning by freezing the game in pes 2017 ..
I don't cheat .. I don't need it .. I don't lower myself..

If I were a cheater I would not have so many defeats ...

https://youtu.be/WO0o-m9WyH0
https://youtu.be/nhlvPk7fbCM

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232300814
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232302337


a boycotted online game is impossible to play ... and doesn't matter how good one could be with all the intense delay has (hundredths, tenths of seconds) the joystick control is almost impossible could compete ...

Any cheating noob can win just by waiting for the player to make the awkward move.
I told you in a face-to-face tournament, not one of you can beat me, they are only winners because they saturate, floods the network ..

Of course it annoys me not being able to play an online match in fair play .. everyone cheats in my club rarely does a "fair play" player come out and that's where one can win a match .. because if they use cheat you can't move your players with no freedom .. I don't know with such a strong delay .. and in the recording I could look normal but it's not like that .. and you know it well ..

(The only playable match)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232303563

I don't believe the story that all your games are playable and smooth .. because they all are cheaters ..
Why my matches allways with all the strong unplayable delay? I have a fiber optic internet of 150 symmetric mbits .. pretty decent .. so that thing is not could be the reason .. it is the cheating community .. if I cannot to enjoy online mode cause the cheats, how do you want me to get in good spirits? Excuse me, come on, don't be offended but there are things you hide ..

djradu_85 Sep 18, 2020 @ 10:53am 
You misunderstand my comment,I said in my comment: that you were admitting cause you were using some tools ,your own words: in 2017 I used that program (DDOs, i found it cause just was luck) because I was tired of the same and it was unplayable, using that tool I could save games because there were times when they would freeze it and make you lose the match,now if you were using it for . Now if was for cheats or not ,I don’t mind,also I don’t remember saying : all matches are playable and smooth because they are all cheaters,just that ALMOST all my games are likely in slow motion,is just a statistic and that my opponents seems like also almost are having a higher speed than me ,even their teams are lowest rated as mine,witch is a bit rare,don’t you think?. And I’m not offended at all,and don’t get it for what I could be ,honestly. And my internet I think is pretty good : symmetrical fiber 500 Mbps download,500 Mbps upload,and i really just don’t know what could I hide 🤷‍♂️,be more specific,and if you need some proof that’s you thinking I’m hiding something ,I’ll be glad to share ,just to see that I’m not kind of person you think
Originally posted by Javi-Hanma:
Originally posted by djradu_85:
Sorry if you think like that about me,what i was trying was simply my opinion as I see the gameplay from my side related a bit to your post,as Starlen Silva ,the name sounds much to me,don’t remember if i was played against him,and about those programming,software they use,is their problem,not mine,also I allway play with basic formations and defaults strategies from the game,and I would like to play with you sometime,for me is just a game to enjoy doesn’t matter if i win or lose ,just ad me : DjRadu ,i play with Real Madrid ,but i play only on DIVISION.So about cheating,you just said that you was using some tools for cheating,as for me ,I’m just a player who like to enjoy playing my favorite game since ISS PRO 98 when I was started. Again,sorry if you miss understood wrong about my comment opinion. Look,just this morning played against some : T.Ramin ,he had more games and higher rating points than me,and the game was very slowly only for me all 90 minutes,he was playing with Bayern Munchen,with an extraordinary speed all 90 minutes,with a lots of pauses from the start till minute 82 I guess,when i was leading 1-0 hardly scored,or lucky I could say,then seen that he could Not beat me and disconnect from game,no points for me,so just blocked him and reported,so in conclusion about others things,of course I didn’t liked,but I did my report and get to the next game,as always do.
oK I see that you omitted some points that I touched and you did not read well .. you say that I continue to use the programs and it is clear that I mentioned that I studied them .. and such a program prevented them from winning by freezing the game in pes 2017 ..
I don't cheat .. I don't need it .. I don't lower myself..

If I were a cheater I would not have so many defeats ...

https://youtu.be/WO0o-m9WyH0
https://youtu.be/nhlvPk7fbCM

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232300814
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232302337


a boycotted online game is impossible to play ... and doesn't matter how good one could be with all the intense delay has (hundredths, tenths of seconds) the joystick control is almost impossible could compete ...

Any cheating noob can win just by waiting for the player to make the awkward move.
I told you in a face-to-face tournament, not one of you can beat me, they are only winners because they saturate, floods the network ..

Of course it annoys me not being able to play an online match in fair play .. everyone cheats in my club rarely does a "fair play" player come out and that's where one can win a match .. because if they use cheat you can't move your players with no freedom .. I don't know with such a strong delay .. and in the recording I could look normal but it's not like that .. and you know it well ..

(The only playable match)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232303563

I don't believe the story that all your games are playable and smooth .. because they all are cheaters ..
Why my matches allways with all the strong unplayable delay? I have a fiber optic internet of 150 symmetric mbits .. pretty decent .. so that thing is not could be the reason .. it is the cheating community .. if I cannot to enjoy online mode cause the cheats, how do you want me to get in good spirits? Excuse me, come on, don't be offended but there are things you hide ..
Last edited by djradu_85; Sep 18, 2020 @ 10:55am
WakeUpSeeTheTruth (Banned) Sep 18, 2020 @ 2:40pm 
ABOUT ALL HİGH POİNT USER are cheating ..800wins50lost or more differences.. i play this cancer game since years always when meeting a player with high records its mostly the same. his team passes movıngs attackıng levels are much hıgher. he can pressure like crazy but u cant. thats not lag cheat what they use but if ask them NO NOOOOO they are just super aliens ! in that moment i would like to ounch on their faces ,realy..thay are nothıng to me and ♥♥♥ with the list... believe me they lost what they take ,they take against eachothers,cheater wins against another cheater . normaly their records would be 1000 win 2 lost ! ♥♥♥ them all .. with correct ways there are to much very good players and thats why u cant make this records no one needs to tell me a styory..
barut11 Sep 18, 2020 @ 3:06pm 
today afternoon I played one match and lead 3 0 till 71 min, in next 17 min I losing 3 4, In that 20 min my players only stay on field. I want to go right he dont want go there, lol. And hole game I have bad conection signal and opponent all the time have pause! And for Cheaters I score in 90 min for 4 4 from Corner his tactics gone in wind, lol. After match I put him on ban list and never play again with him!
And my internet connection is 250 mb dow, 25mb upl, and I have bad connection, lol.

Alll what this man say about this cheathing is true, only my opinion!
Last edited by barut11; Sep 18, 2020 @ 3:07pm
txikitillo Sep 18, 2020 @ 4:56pm 
Good Javi for reporting on the culture of deception where certain human beings participate and are awarded money for it in official tournaments so that later they say that the companies do not participate in the culture of deception. for fame and / or money, some would prostitute their own mothers and deny it even if they were tortured.

Trainers are executable programs that allow you to alter the way the game works so that you could cheat. They enable features that are similar to cheat codes, for example you could get unlimited health, ammo etc. when using a trainer.


For example Quick Memory Editor 4 can build executable trainer for specific game.
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