My Faction is fun but... (unfair matches rant)

[Baby_Bears_Papa]

Why does 2k keep making the mistake of putting players in situation where they have pretty much 0 agency over the outcome?
Specifically I am talking about MyFaction Chapter one Match 5 a Tornado Tag Triple Threat match between 2 of your guys (of which you obviously only control one) vs. #DIY (Gargano and Ciampa) vs. Breezango. Now to successfully complete the match you have to do certain actions AND win, but the match can just end at any time, without your involvement. In particular I keep losing to somebody tapping out to the Garga no escape, because the AI might interrupt pinfalls, but somehow it never interrupts that move. If I am just down on the ground or in a grapple somewhere when Gargano goes for it it is an instant loss.
I know it's probably too late for this, but please stop including matches like this in future towers at the very least.

[Toki13]

From my experience with the game so far, multi man match AI is horrible. I DREAD tag team matches in any mode, because they last forever. Same with 4-ways. I actually stopped bothering with MyFaction, at least for a while, because every mode had a match like you're talking about, upcoming. Universe mode, whatever, you don't HAVE to win. But these, especially with a limited character choice, and the default moveset, no thank you.

Now that I think about it, the AI pathfinding is one of the major issues related to this. No matter what, they want to take a straight path. No matter if there's a referee, podium, whatever, in the way. Add a ref that's slow to get into position sometimes, and a lot of moves and animations that take some time to finish, AND a targeting system with seemingly a mind of it's own....it can get frustrating.

But isn't that how those kinds of matches truly are?

[Baby_Bears_Papa]

Indeed. I think what I'll just try when I come back to it is try and only target Gargano and build up my MFP on him. If I manage to take him out of the match he's not gonna hit his finish now, is he?

But yes it's been a problem with the WWE games forever. I specifically remember the nightmare that was Money in the Bank in career mode in 2k19. Think it took me like 15 tries back then with all the objectives and somehow winning, because of the problems you mentioned.

[Toki13]

The story mode Money In the Bank? I just got PTSD reading that being mentioned,. thanks lol

I'd recommend the tried and true heel method: Let A hit a finisher on B, throw A out. If it's 4 man, I try to wait until someone is stunned outside, or go for the actual pin\submission when everyone else is starting a grapple animation

[Baby_Bears_Papa]

Yes that one and you are welcome. xD

Well it's not gonna be that easy cuz it's Tornado Tag Triple Threat, that's a lot of ring clearing to be done. And usually they or rather he (Gargano) manages to end the match, before I even reach enough goals to get the required 90 points, that you need to actually "finish" the match, because winning is not enough.

[KeV]

Multi-Man Matches can be horribly frustrating, especially the 4v4 Faction Wars. Hit your finisher then take out one guy from the apron, change target, take him out, change target, take him out and HOPE the targeting doesnt screw you over or the legal opponent you hit is still stunned.

[Raftspyder]

Or the fact that members from both teams will walk side by side so they can double team your wrestler in the case of that tornado tag match for whatever have even had 3 people just walking after me around the ring nonstop

[Baby_Bears_Papa]

Right, seems I spoke too soon. I made it through some of these Triple Threat Tornado Tag Matches. With the right Wrestlers (Submission finisher) it becomes a bit easier. But guess what. I am now in a Tornado Tag Fatal Four Way (so that's 2v2v2v2) LADDER match. Yeah you know how fans at wrestling will sometimes chant "fight forever"? Well in this match that is literally what you get. I think I am in this for an hour now and still no end in sight. Don't even know if I should be mad at it or just laughing at the stupidity that someone thought this was a good idea.

Edit: Okay maybe it was tabbing out and venting my frustration or the pee break I took afterwards, but after tabbing back in I finished it through sheer coincidence as I managed to lay out two guys with finishers and everyone else was fighting outside and apparently forgot I existed. But still "fun" looks different.

[Baby_Bears_Papa]

Well here is a new low point of stupid matches that make you go "what were they thinking?"

You vs. Otis vs. Tucker vs. Titus vs. Jinder vs. Elias vs. Roode vs. Apollo
in a single fall 8 man match. Good luck not having the AI score a random pinfall or you hitting the right moment to finish the match yourself.

Seriously man these devs must have been on something, when they cooked that up.