soul shop priority after removing softcap?

[MaoMaoMao]

So, after buying the upgrade that allows you to buy new levels until 50 I'm a bit lost about how to make the best of my souls (since they are the only one finite resource in the game).

I'm wondering if there is a guide out there and if not, I will appreciate any kind of advice since I'm not that into the game and I feel kind of lost since I didn't knew at all that you could unlock new levels.

[clemons75]

Depending on what NG+ iteration you are on, I would definitely up the armor levels first; new blueprints drop up to NG+20. Rune levels would be next, but up your damage stats and vitality, too. Rune weight becomes very important as you increase your rune levels. Class levels are good for general stat boosts, and the Charon one should be last, imo.

So, assuming you have unlocked the special classes you want, this is the order I recommend:
Armor unlocks
Rune unlocks
Damage manor upgrades
Health manor upgrades
Rest of the manor upgrades
Class levels
Charon gold dump

[lukeliu]

Highly recommend armor. Unlocking +9 armor is totally game changing.

[MaoMaoMao]

Originally posted by clemons75:

Depending on what NG+ iteration you are on, I would definitely up the armor levels first; new blueprints drop up to NG+20. Rune levels would be next, but up your damage stats and vitality, too. Rune weight becomes very important as you increase your rune levels. Class levels are good for general stat boosts, and the Charon one should be last, imo.

So, assuming you have unlocked the special classes you want, this is the order I recommend:
Armor unlocks
Rune unlocks
Damage manor upgrades
Health manor upgrades
Rest of the manor upgrades
Class levels
Charon gold dump

Thanks you for your answer, this is gonna be handy for sure.


Would you recommend dumping everything on armor unlocks even if the price raises? Or maybe should I split it once it becomes more expensive?

[clemons75]

Depends on your stock of materials. You very likely will get all the blueprints well before you can pay for everything. I had good results picking an armor set I wanted, upgrading that as high as I could, then bumping stats. Rinse, repeat until +9 armor. If you feel brave, grind with the gold set at 50 unity.

[Gnodab]

Originally posted by MaoMaoMao:

Would you recommend dumping everything on armor unlocks even if the price raises? Or maybe should I split it once it becomes more expensive?

That depends entirely on how you want to play.

If you play a variety of classes, it's best to spread your points around so you don't just buff your melee classes and leave your caster classes in the dust. This goes for upgrading Mastery too, so you can level each class as they come up without hitting the cap.

Some people just want to scale really hard and be powerful though, so if you want to say, dump all your points into Vitality and Armor and Strength and never play magic classes, you can do that too.

However, one problem with that approach is that you'll want to level Mastery on every class to buff all your stats, and if you don't level stats equally, your Barbarians will be really strong but your Mages will be super weak, and since Mages buff Intelligence for their Mastery, it only compounds the problem. Just FYI if you want to start exploring other classes.

Armor drops are nice, but they get very expensive with Cosmic Overload, like hundreds of thousands of ore to upgrade 1 piece of the later sets. And a lot of the time all you're getting is just a few stat boosts when you do that. Level 100 Unity Bonuses are tempting, and some are really good, but I wouldn't overdo it if you're starved for Ore.

At the end of the day, just buy according to what you can afford. If you have lots of Ore and ran out of gear drops, buy the Armor upgrade. If you have max Mastery on a bunch of classes, buy the Mastery upgrade, etc.

[Pnume]

As far as I know it's not a finite resource.

Scars are the fastest way to get it but bosses also gives a little bit of it and you can fights them forever if you want.

[MaoMaoMao]

Originally posted by Pnume:

As far as I know it's not a finite resource.

Scars are the fastest way to get it but bosses also gives a little bit of it and you can fights them forever if you want.

forever?

no, because if you go back to an already completed NG you don't get souls

[Gnodab]

If you play with default Burdens you won't ever have to worry about enemies outscaling you. Even if they do, just tone them down with House Rules, or tune them up if they're too easy. That's what's cool about the game; you can more or less do whatever you want regarding difficulty.

If you complete all the Scars you get tons of soul stones, which will be a massive powerspike depending on how early you manage to get Bronze/Silver/Gold on all of them. So that factors in as well.

[Whiplash]

Originally posted by Gnodab:

If you play with default Burdens you won't ever have to worry about enemies outscaling you. Even if they do, just tone them down with House Rules, or tune them up if they're too easy. That's what's cool about the game; you can more or less do whatever you want regarding difficulty.

If you complete all the Scars you get tons of soul stones, which will be a massive powerspike depending on how early you manage to get Bronze/Silver/Gold on all of them. So that factors in as well.

I'll also add that buying Soul Orbs with Ore and Aether contributes towards the total upgrades needed to unlock Cosmic Overload. Between that and scars, I think I hit Overload at NG+4? It's surprisingly easy to unlock early and outpace the difficulty scaling if you don't mind waiting on runes and equips.

[cookies for everyone!]

Originally posted by lukeliu:

Highly recommend armor. Unlocking +9 armor is totally game changing.

Not really, i think most players use drowned first and then move on to also include other pieces once they can get all 3 set bonus on it, but i don't see that as super important first buys simply because it takes quite a while before you can even GET +9 to drop for all sets, im at NG+15 atm and i JUST got my drowned set to +8.

For example: The Kin set (last set) you can only get once you reach NG+1 or NG+2 (can't remember which it is), and to get the last set to +9 i read you need to reach NG+20, if anything, i would recommend getting armor to +6, and runes to +6, then at NG+10 or more, max armor and then runes, after that i would max +str/dex/Rune weight as each NG+ will increase enemy health and armor.

my VIT/Health has not been an issue for a long time now so i don't prioritise that at all and have it at 13 or something