can we just get infinite rerolls on heirs?

[Dan_The_Noob]

what's the point of forcing us to play heirs we won't enjoy back to back to back or to waste gold (large amounts, might i add) to get rerolls that have no guarantee to even relieve the issue?

another option would be to let us retire heroes in the town/camp area, so we dont have to wait for pizza girl to jump on the boat etc.

just give us unlimited rerolls on heirs and scrap that tree slot for rerolling traits on an existing choice or something...

[Magus]

I think unlimited rerolls would lead to a lot of cheese since part of the game is making the best out of what you're given, but it would be nice to get a certain number of free rerolls per run or pay a certain % of gold to ban certain traits or classes for a run, similar to the architect mechanic. I hate playing the assassin for example so every time they show up it's like my options get cut down to two.

[Dan_The_Noob]

i hate no having a gold bonus and some of the traits are borderline unplayable.
(like the one with no iframes after being hit)

I had a reroll earlier with the first screen was wizard, archer, astromancer.
astro and archer both had identical trait (the -50% hp and damage + mana regen trait)
then the reroll had that exact same trait on a gun guy, then perfectionist lancer and then a pirate with nothing.

[Dark]

Soul shop lets you lock in a class and/or spell slot for the right most hero. Or lets you lock the 'Contrarian trait (random class/weapon/skill)' in the left most slot.

Yes, even with 4 Heirs and 5x re-rolls, you can still not get a specific trait you are looking for (High gold modifier, or Specific trait like hoarder.) But it does allow you to avoid those 'NOPE' traits you may never want to use (like 0 iframes.)

But infinite rerolls while fishing for the perfect class/trait combo would do weird things to player engagement and motivation. It can cause issues in the opposite extreme.


Relic randomness isn't quite as random/impactfull as it is in a game like Issac or Hades, so the Heir randomness is the largest source of variability between runs in Rouge Legacy.



I just had a full clear run with a duelist (locked in right slot to level DEX moddifier) that had Panic attacks and Neurological disorder (screen darkens and dismissed on hit). That was... something, but Hero was just doing their best and I am proud of them.

Am using all my rerolls to fish for Hoarder trait these days though (and picking Pacifist when it falls on a class I haven't level capped yet.)

[Dan_The_Noob]

I like more traits than i do classes.

currently, i've degraded my engagement of the game to reroll, hope for knight, dragoon/boosty rocket spear guy or boxer with any kind of gold bonus.
if i don't get any of that, run into castle, retire/kill self. try again.

because most of the other classes are just frustrating for me. i hate not being able to defend myself quickly (most classes have a delay on attack or some gimmick with how to aim it)

[Dark]

In that case, those two soul options will defintly help you. You can lock in Knight (or change it to Boxer/Dragon whenever you want afterwards). Or hope Contrarian rolls one of the other classes with the Knight weapon.

Also, I should mention Contrarian trait Always has gold bonus. 25%-88% with the Health Care castle upgrade. And no 'down side' other than a random loadout.

[Dan_The_Noob]

do i need to unlock a bunch of stuff in the soul shop to get the contrarian or lock class thingy??

[Dark]

I... don't remember. They are the three options above the juke box in the soul shop. I forget how many 'require x number of purchases' they require.

Honestly I did a lot of the scar challenges with House rules to get early soul gems.