Boxing Bell and Combos

[losthexed]

Can anyone explain the mechanic of Combos you get with the Boxing Bell? Is it a damage increase? How much?

[Rhadamante]

When you hit an enemy you apply 1 combo per bell per hit. You can stack those up to 20 if you hit fast enough not to let the status effect expire.

When hitting an enemy with any number of combos on them, you get a damage increase. I think it's 3% per combo, capping at 20 stacks (+60% dmg).

The KO punch talent reacts differently: it consumes all the combos on the target and increase damage by I think 35% per combo.

[Tanoomba]

Which weapons is the boxing bell compatible with? I imagine it works well with the assassin, but is it useless for the lance or axe?

[losthexed]

Not great for the mages staff either.

[Moth]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Which weapons is the boxing bell compatible with? I imagine it works well with the assassin, but is it useless for the lance or axe?

I had a good Gunslinger run where I picked up both the Boxing Bell and Knockout Punch as a replacement for my reload. I think the combo mechanic actually works better there than it does with the default Boxer setup.

[RebirthOfJack]

Originally posted by Moth:

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Which weapons is the boxing bell compatible with? I imagine it works well with the assassin, but is it useless for the lance or axe?

I had a good Gunslinger run where I picked up both the Boxing Bell and Knockout Punch as a replacement for my reload. I think the combo mechanic actually works better there than it does with the default Boxer setup.

That actually sounds amazing, since the gunslinger can build combo waaaaay faster than the boxer

i'll have to try that one day

[PapaGiorgio]

If you consider an average relic to represent a 10-15% damage increase, you need to get to get to about 7-10 combo before it has increased your damage more than another relic has (because you have to make up for the early hits where combo did little to nothing). So from my perspective, the boxing bell is a pretty weak relic for any class except boxer (because of how combo interacts with K.O punch) and gunslinger.

For other classes, it will only perform well on bosses, and that assumes you are very good at making sure it doesn't fall off so you can consistently keep the stacks fairly high. If you find yourself frequently breaking contact with the boss to avoid attacks and having combo fall off before the 7-10 combo mark, it still isn't doing all that much for you.

It also has the flaw of only affecting physical damage, I believe. So no interaction with burn/spore burst or spells.

[Seig]

Boxing bell does stack with the innate combo effect boxer has which is nice if you use their special a lot.

[Rhadamante]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Which weapons is the boxing bell compatible with? I imagine it works well with the assassin, but is it useless for the lance or axe?

It's awesome with the Barbarian's axe... but only against bosses.
With the spinning air attack you can accrue a lot of combos quickly (since bosses tend to be easy to hit) and then land and use the regular attack with the increased damage. But on regular mobs, probably not useful as they're going to die too fast anyway.

Might be good with the Hammer too, but again, probably only against bosses as most enemies are not going to survive past the first few hits (where you'd average 3~5% dmg increase only)

Originally posted by Seig:

Boxing bell does stack with the innate combo effect boxer has which is nice if you use their special a lot.

Who wouldn't use the boxer's talent, and why ? That ♥♥♥♥'s bonkers.
Its only downside is that it destroys the environment so you can't keep props as potential source of food for later.

[Seig]

Originally posted by Rhadamante:

Who wouldn't use the boxer's talent, and why ? That ♥♥♥♥'s bonkers.

Well you can also easily make it through with the boxer by just spamming shoryuken